[Plone-UI] [Framework-Team] PLIP 12227: In-Plone Theme Editor

Martin Aspeli optilude+lists at gmail.com
Thu Mar 8 11:13:48 UTC 2012


Thanks for this! Let me digest more fully in light of Denys' comments as well.

One thing I wanted to say, however: The goal of this is not to
completely hide the XML rules syntax. We want to help people write the
rules file, but we are not, yet, mature enough to be able to make
theming a fully point-and-click experience, and you need to be able to
think about things like conditionals and sequence. If we hide the
output, people will be confused when it doesn't work perfectly as
they'd expected.

I'm not sure if this was clear to the reviewers?


On 8 March 2012 10:44, Ramon Navarro Bosch <ramon.nb at gmail.com> wrote:
> I've shown it to our designers in order to recive feedback, they said to me
> :
> * It's now understable how the mapper works, the feeling that you can choose
> the elements on content and theme makes you feel that you can assign rules
> only saving the elements and is not easy to understand.
> * One suggestion they made is  not showing the rules files by default, just
> show the new rules button, then the two screens of origin-theme , with the
> result at the end and a option of where you want to store the new rule ( a
> list of levels on the rule's xml so you decide to add it on the
> visual-wrapper, ... any other point.
> * The option to add the rule with conditional
> * On the new rule option should be a first option of which kind of rule, new
> static file, ...
> * There should be an option to see the rules file ( that is on the editor )
> so people dont' get messed with it.
> I'm sending an image that as we say in catalan: it's more important a image
> than 1000 words
> Ramon
> On 8 March 2012 10:38, Denys Mishunov <denys.mishunov at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Martin Aspeli <optilude+lists at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > One request, though: you said the structure of the theme mapper is "a
>> > mess". Could you perhaps do a quick mock-up (low-fidelity is fine) of
>> > the type of structure you think would work better? I didn't quite
>> > follow the textual description.
>> Sure, I was thinking about it myself (I know my textual descriptions
>> can get really messy as well ;)) just didn't quite have time at
>> 01:30AM :-P Will see what I can come up with today in the evening.
>> Will try to so some Balsamiq mockups for the start
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Denys Mishunov
>> http://mishunov.me • twitter:@mishunov
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