[Plone-UI] Plip. Placeless adding
Jure Cerjak
jcerjak at termitnjak.si
Sun Dec 23 16:46:03 UTC 2012
+1
About the location of 'global add' - I'd prefer to have it in the edit
bar. I think of edit bar as "the nice green thing that lets me manage my
content". I know it's also context oriented, but I don't think global
add breaks this considerably.
cheers,
ibi
On 12/23/2012 12:11 PM, Alberto Lopes wrote:
>
> +1 on the "global add" idea, and the location field on the add/edit
> form, defaulted to the context.
>
> However, I would not put the "global add" option in the add item menu.
>
> I feel like the edit bar follows a semantic in which everything you
> click on it applies to the current context. If the add menu included
> the global add option, that semantic would be inconsistent.
>
> Besides, I think it could confuse inexperienced editors, which would
> see unrestricted content types on both the "add here" and the "global
> add" menu.
>
> My suggestion would be to leave the "add item" menu as it is now and
> to include the "global add" in the site actions area along with the
> site setup and dashboard links.
>
> That way, it is accessible from anywhere in the site and does not
> break the edit bar semantics.
>
> Em 23/12/2012 04:42, "Christian Ledermann"
> <christian.ledermann at gmail.com <mailto:christian.ledermann at gmail.com>>
> escreveu:
>
> +1 this is a common use case
>
> On Dec 23, 2012 6:47 AM, "Dylan Jay" <djay at pretaweb.com
> <mailto:djay at pretaweb.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> We came up with this idea over PretaWeb drinks on Friday.
> Thoughts?
> Anyone interested in seconding?
>
> Proposer: Dylan jay
> Seconded:
>
> Motivation
> --------------
>
> Many times custom types are only designed to be added in a certain
> place, or you may want restrict built in types to limited
> places in
> your site. In such cases plone is harder work than it should
> be to add
> a new item. You have know where to add it, browse to that
> location,
> often with a nav designed for exploring not fast access, then
> you can
> select from the menu. We've seen installs with lots of place
> specific
> types where training is needed to teach where to add each type.
>
> Proposal
> ------------
> Instead, add new menu can be decided into two sections, add here,
> global add. "Global add" includes any type not in "add here"
> All add forms will have a path/location field. If you click
> global add
> you can select from available locations using this field
> (perhaps with
> sensible default). If only one location in site, this will be read
> only. If item addable in current folder then context will be
> default.
> Some type might need to be excluded from global add like pfg
> types.
> Adding location field to types makes plone more familiar to
> users of
> other CMs and also allows a user to change their mind on where it
> should go as they are creating content. It could also be a URL
> field
> where uses could enter folders that don't exist and they will be
> added. This also allows setting short name.
>
> Assumptions
> -----------------
>
>
> Deliverables
> -----------------
> - New add menu implementation
> - modify standard metadata on standard types so forms include path
> field. Or else use schemaextender. Modify dexterity to do same.
> - widget for path with browse button and editable path.
> - Change the way factory creation works in AT and dexterity to
> allow
> creation in different folder.
>
> Risks
> --------
> Add menu could get long. Could be mitigated having a more
> button or scroll list.
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