[Plone-UI] Fwd: Re: UI request - integrating p.a. theming editor and file manager

Wed Sep 14 15:35:18 UTC 2011

Probably badly explained:
What I mean is that if you go to the ACE theming control panel 
( http://svn.plone.org/svn/plone/plone.app.theming/branches/optilude-ace/ )
after you have changed to another theme than sunburst, it will not show anything.

You might be right about classes (maybe a js scrip on the <select>.
I will try to find out.

Espen

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>On 9/12/11 2:48 PM, Espen Moe-Nilssen wrote:
>>
>> Maybe I misunderstand here. My usercase would be like this:
>> Assume you have an "old" site ( that uses plone's old look and feel. )
>> You then upgrade to Plone 4.1 and make a new Diazo theme, but want users to add content with a site that looks like "old plone".
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>This case is currently normally handled by separate vhost e.g. plone.org 
>vs. manage.plone.org. And the p.a.theming control panel makes it very 
>easy to setup hosts that you do not want to theme i.e. for your content 
>editors.
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>That said, you may break things if you have Diazo-themed on top of Plone 
>Sunburst, and then you switch to Plone Classic. That's because your 
>Diazo theme relies on a particular set of CSS classes and ids, and 
>changing the "old style" theme in Plone may break that assumption.
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>Alex
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>> I still havent had enought time to test ACE properly, but it looks great.
>> Could something like this be an option:
>> 1) When editing the theme, you go straight to the "file manager", but still have the possibility to choose which file to edit
>> 2) You can click on a file to edit it.
>>
>> In other words, there is only one screen where  everything "happens" (both the file management and the choosing of which file to edit is at the same place. (PS: They are not part of the same screen... they are the same screen, a bit the oposite as suggested below: instead of the "button to add files", there is a menu to edit the files, or you can click on them)
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>> espen
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>>> I would expect that it will only work for Diazo themes.
>>>
>>> :jon
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 7:06 AM, Espen Moe-Nilssen<espen at medialog.no>  wrote:
>>>> I am trying to "join in here"
>>>> Can anyone confirm if things the ACE control panel is not working when then
>>>> another theme is selected (like plone classic theme)
>>>> espen
>>>>
>>>> Den 12. sep. 2011 kl. 13.02 skrev Martin Aspeli:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> On 12 September 2011 06:13, Nathan Van Gheem<vangheem at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry everyone, forgot to reply all. Trying to use apple mail app and its
>>>>> killing me that cmd+r doesn't auto reply all!
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>> From: "Nathan Van Gheem"<vangheem at gmail.com>
>>>>> Date: Sep 11, 2011 11:09 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Plone-UI] UI request - integrating p.a.theming editor and
>>>>> file manager
>>>>> To: "Martin Aspeli"<optilude+lists at gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Currently, these two views are separate. When you edit an in-ZODB theme
>>>>>> in the p.a.theming control panel on the "Manage themes" tab, you have two
>>>>>> options: "Edit" and "Manage files".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think it would be more natural if these two were part of the same
>>>>>> screen, but I'm struggling to understand exactly how that would work
>>>>>> visually. I'd like to retain the idea that you can work on multiple files
>>>>>> and that you can save all files at once or revert your changes before
>>>>>> saving.
>>>>> Yah, this is a little odd. I think we just have a "manage files" button.
>>>>> Then, we just need edit buttons on the manage files screen that open an
>>>>> overlay with the ACE editor in it. Also, leave the quick file switching
>>>>> functionality available in the ACE editor.
>>>>
>>>> What happens if I delete or rename a file I'm editing in ACE?
>>>> Jon sent me some feedback separately, which I just wanted to capture here:
>>>>   - He expected the file manager to be the initial view and the editor to
>>>> launch from within there (i.e. click on a file, click edit)
>>>>   - He expected some kind of multi-upload to e.g. load in multiple images
>>>>   - He expected some kind of drag-and-drop to move/copy files
>>>>   - He felt the position of the 'home' button was somewhat confusing (I
>>>> agree)
>>>>>
>>>>> Is the use case of simply managing top-level plone resources something we
>>>>> want to pursue at all? Seems like this functionality should be exposed even
>>>>> if you don't want to put the resource in a theme.
>>>>
>>>> The editor right now works for resource directories (used for themes, but
>>>> also for bits of Deco and in the future probably Dexterity). I don't really
>>>> want this to scope creep into a replacement for folder_contents just yet.
>>>> However, the file manager is really theme agnostic and would work with any
>>>> resource directory which we should retain.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Great work as always Martin. These are killer features.
>>>>
>>>> Are you interested in helping to complete this? I feel like I'm hitting the
>>>> limits of my client-side fu.
>>>> Martin
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