[Plone-UI] [Plone-developers] Should we integrate ACE into p.a.theming?

Alex Clark aclark at aclark.net
Tue Sep 6 22:14:27 UTC 2011


Hi,

On 9/6/11 6:03 PM, Martin Aspeli wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 6 September 2011 23:00, Jon Stahl <jonstahl at gmail.com
> <mailto:jonstahl at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 8:53 PM, Martin Aspeli
>     <optilude+lists at gmail.com
>     <mailto:optilude%2Blists at gmail.com>>
>     wrote:
>      >
>      >
>      > On 6 September 2011 21:40, Jon Stahl
>     <jonstahl at gmail.com
>     <mailto:jonstahl at gmail.com>> wrote:
>      >>
>      >> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Martin Aspeli
>     <optilude+lists at gmail.com
>     <mailto:optilude%2Blists at gmail.com>>
>      >> wrote:
>      >> > Hi,
>      >> >
>      >> > On 6 September 2011 04:36, Jon Stahl
>     <jonstahl at gmail.com
>     <mailto:jonstahl at gmail.com>> wrote:
>      >> >> 3) I was surprised to not be able to edit existing
>     third-party themes
>      >> >> I'd loaded into my test site.  I'd think that tweaking an
>     existing
>      >> >> canned theme would be one of the most-requested use-cases for
>     this
>      >> >> capability.
>      >> >
>      >> > You should able to edit anything that's in the ZODB (but not
>     on the
>      >> > filesystem). Can you give me a reproducible test case?
>      >>
>      >> I used buildout to install several of the recent Plone 4.1 Diazo
>      >> themes from http://plone.org/products.  The themes loaded up
>     just fine
>      >> and I can activate them.
>      >
>      > In this case they're on the filesystem (or more likely, in eggs).
>      > If you'd just uploaded zip files into the control panel, you
>     could've edited
>      > them.
>      >
>
>     As I suspected. But, I see this as problematic, since I think many new
>     users will approach this with the first use-case of wanting to tweak
>     an existing canned theme with their logo + other small changes, not
>     start from scratch and/or upload a Zip (which they'd get from where?).
>
>
> I actually think more people will install themes as zip files than
> fiddle with buildout and eggs. If you're not a developer, running
> buildout is scary. At least that's the basis of the thinking behind the
> zip file resource format.
>
>       Is editing stuff on the filesystem straight-out impossible?  (Perhaps
>     copying it into the ZODB first?)
>
>
> If the theme is in a filesystem resource directory, it's not too hard.
>
> If the theme is in an egg, it's impossible (or at least a really bad idea).
>
> I think a better approach might be a "create a copy" button and let you
> edit that.


+1. I'd love to see such a thing. And bonus points if we can export the 
modified theme as a zip or package. :-) (Improving our round-tripping 
story really, really excites me.)


Alex



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