[Product-Developers] [ANN] New simplified product skeleton for Plone

Alex Clark aclark at aclark.net
Wed Mar 21 15:36:57 UTC 2012

On 3/21/12 12:12 AM, Mikko Ohtamaa wrote:
>         Cool ;-)
>         Did you have a look at the 'plone-customizations' egg provided by
>         plone-devstart? Wondering if it serves a somewhat similar purpose.
>     Or my "hello plone":
>     http://blog.aclark.net/2011/__08/20/hello-plone/
>     <http://blog.aclark.net/2011/08/20/hello-plone/>.
>     Actually, it's kind of nice to see a bunch of these similarly-aimed
>     projects showing up.
> Thanks. Eventually I believe we should adopt the approach which give the
> least cruft and most pain-free developer experience.

Hmmm, I'm not sure we should go in that direction. I was hoping to make 
things as hard as possible for… kidding! I think what is noteworthy is 
that many of us are trying (in our own way) to make things "easy for 
people". The challenge of the Plone project is to pick and choose the 
best techniques from the myriad of options available, and use them in 
"official" channels e.g. core, installers, docs, etc.

Another facet of the discussion is how we all work vs. what we are 
trying to teach new folks. This is a glimpse of how I work:

- http://docs.pythonpackages.com/en/latest/advanced.html

Martin and Moo have given us there glimpses. Hopefully these techniques 
match what we teach new folks, but they don't always. This is why need 
something like the FWT to "bless" what Plone will officially offer and 
stand behind. E.g. Unified Installer: Officially Supported.


> -Mikko
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