[Product-Developers] ANN: plone-devstart (please help test)
ericof at plone.org
Sun Mar 11 06:54:21 UTC 2012
First of all, it is a very good initiative. We need to lower the
entry barrier to Plone development in order to attract new people.
But, even though something like plone-devstart is a good idea, I
might ask if it was the right move or even if this is what we needed the
Last night while talking to Clayton and Liz about the whole
ZopeSkel/Paster/Templer/Crushinator situation it became clear that the
story for new developers is a complete mess.
There are good ideas, great developers and high expectations. There
isn't a working solution. Some people jumped on Templer, most people
still need to pin ZopeSkel <2.99 (damn local commands).
This is bad, and having a new shinny thing that "eases" Plone
development just made the situation even worse -- as long as someone
must use it and then <zopeskel create> & <paster addcontent>.
Time to kill most of the available options, focus on **just one**
and have a compelling story to tell to newcomers.
On 10/03/12 14:15, Martin Aspeli wrote:
> Somewhat inspired by the goals of the ``plone.api`` initiative and
> based on the experience of seeing many, many people struggle to get a
> "safe" Plone development up and running due to problems with polluted
> system Python interpreters, missing libraries and confusing buildouts,
> I have created a script called ``plone-devstart.py``.
> The idea is that you can use this to instantiate a new development
> environment in a 'safe' way. It will perform some checks on your
> environment to determine the likelihood of success. It then installs a
> bunch of useful development tools, a basic deployment configuration,
> and creates a simple (non-reusable) package where you can put your
> custom Python code and templates.
> For now it lives here: https://github.com/plone/plone-devstart/
> It supports Plone 4.1, though I plan to add 4.2 support shortly.
> You can download the one file you need here:
> I've tested as much as I can, but if this is to work out for a broader
> audience, we need lots of people to test. If you have a particularly
> messed up environment, I'd like to hear about it. :)
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