[Product-Developers] ZopeSkel plone4_buildout and deprecation warning

Johannes Raggam raggam-nl at adm.at
Mon Feb 21 12:10:43 UTC 2011


On Sun, 2011-02-20 at 18:01 -0800, derek wrote:
> > 1) Sysadmins often fail with buildout, since they lack enough Python
> > experience. Buildout gives you really bad experience when encountering
> > errors etc. It is generally being hated by non-developers.
true. buildout gives not very clear error messages, when something goes
wrong.

> I don't think it is "hated" - but you want to have a developer set up
> your buildout, first.  Sysadmins can handle appending stuff to an
> existing buildout.
> 
> However, this is precisely the point here - the plone4_buildout
> template IS out of date.  If you install from the standard installer,
> you GET a buildout-based install - that a number of developers have
> put a lot of effort into getting right.  A much more reliable buildout
> than one built from scratch with paster.

from what i've seen, the buildout.cfg file is OK with plone4_buildout.
one thing could be improved, namely that the default plone version
should be 4.0-latest instead of 4.0.1.

why i'm asking is, i'm in a team, writing a developer tutorial for
linuxmagazin.de. and paster is generally a good start.


best,,,
,,,johannes raggam


> > 2) Buildout sets password and stores it as plaintext
> >
> > Maybe we can change the message to say "If you are not a developer, don't do
> > this?"
> 
> I'm not sure what the point is, or what the connection between those
> two statements is.  I don't think the installer or paster do this any
> differently.

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