From r.ritz at biologie.hu-berlin.de  Mon Aug  1 12:03:06 2011
From: r.ritz at biologie.hu-berlin.de (Raphael Ritz)
Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 14:03:06 +0200
Subject: [Product-Developers] collective.portlet.explore ragged margin
	workaround
In-Reply-To: <CAAT_zTFg-W-4Ad56TfE5EwHtoxDSWuvCjbobs=87zoEf4xiEhg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAT_zTFg-W-4Ad56TfE5EwHtoxDSWuvCjbobs=87zoEf4xiEhg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <j164lq$emq$1@dough.gmane.org>

On 7/29/11 7:51 PM, ken manheimer wrote:
> i love collective.portlet.explore's functionality, but find the ragged
> right margin of wrapped titles - where the second-line is far tot the
> right of the first - to defeat the readability of the nesting structure.
>   i have a fix, and would be happy to check it in, but the approach is
> dubious, and am looking for better suggestions.

Have you seen
http://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/2776

It suggests to use a negative 'text-indent' together with
appropriate 'margin-left' settings.

Not sure this is what you are after but maybe it is ...

Cheers,

	Raphael

>
> the problem is that conventional css approaches to indenting second
> lines fail, because at sufficient nesting depths they cause the
> open/close toggle glyph (the triangle) to be covered by the leading
> line.  i haven't found a way, using just css on the <span> enclosing the
> title, to get around that.
>
> the easy fix is to enclose the title in a
> <table><tr><td>...<table><tr><td>.  actually, i need to use <table
> style="border-spacing: 0px">... to get rid of extraneous spacing imposed
> by user-agent stylesheets.  i'm far from certain this is the best way to
> do it, or even an acceptible one.  for quick and dirty, though, it works
> like a charm.
>
> what's the right way to do this?  (and why do people tolerate the ragged
> right margin, as is?  do people just not use collective.portlet.explore?
>   or always use very short titles?)
>
> i should add that my time for attention to this is extremely limited -
> i'm just trying to make the thing useful, in a centrally maintainable way.
>
> ken manheimer
>
>
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> Product-Developers at lists.plone.org
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From imran.azad at bradfordhospitals.nhs.uk  Mon Aug  1 18:04:16 2011
From: imran.azad at bradfordhospitals.nhs.uk (Imran Azad)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 11:04:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Product-Developers] Hide "Sharing tab" in Dexterity content type
Message-ID: <1312221856449-6641961.post@n2.nabble.com>

Hi,

I'm aware that it's possible to hide the "Sharing tab" by making the
workflow manage the "Sharing page: Delegate roles" permission, however is it
possible to do this within an xml file instead via GenericSetup?

Thanks

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From ken.manheimer at gmail.com  Mon Aug  1 22:27:15 2011
From: ken.manheimer at gmail.com (ken manheimer)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 18:27:15 -0400
Subject: [Product-Developers] collective.portlet.explore ragged margin
	workaround
In-Reply-To: <j164lq$emq$1@dough.gmane.org>
References: <CAAT_zTFg-W-4Ad56TfE5EwHtoxDSWuvCjbobs=87zoEf4xiEhg@mail.gmail.com>
 <j164lq$emq$1@dough.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <CAAT_zTE9cXOd7hD+fopAYqHKV-OEwmP2O=W3Q7NWRixVOJ4h4w@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 8:03 AM, Raphael Ritz
<r.ritz at biologie.hu-berlin.de>wrote:

> On 7/29/11 7:51 PM, ken manheimer wrote:
>
>> i love collective.portlet.explore's functionality, but find the ragged
>> right margin of wrapped titles - where the second-line is far tot the
>> right of the first - to defeat the readability of the nesting structure.
>>  i have a fix, and would be happy to check it in, but the approach is
>> dubious, and am looking for better suggestions.
>>
>
> Have you seen
> http://dev.plone.org/plone/**ticket/2776<http://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/2776>
>


> It suggests to use a negative 'text-indent' together with
> appropriate 'margin-left' settings.
>

i hadn't seen that tracker issue, but the negative text-indent is what i was
referring to by conventional techniques that wind up stomping the
toggle/expand bullet.  resolving that, plus the general complexity of the
CSS approach as described in the issue even if that proves solvable, makes
me comfortable with the very simple wrapping of the entry title in
table/tr/td.

since i heard no objections, yesterday i checked the
change<http://dev.plone.org/collective/browser/collective.portlet.explore/trunk/collective/portlet/explore/recurse.pt?rev=243002>
in
to the collective.portlet.explore trunk, noting the whole situation in bug
tracker issue 11<http://plone.org/products/collective.portlet.explore/issues/11/view>
.


> Not sure this is what you are after but maybe it is ...
>

yep - thanks for pointing it out!

ken


> Cheers,
>
>        Raphael
>
>
>> the problem is that conventional css approaches to indenting second
>> lines fail, because at sufficient nesting depths they cause the
>> open/close toggle glyph (the triangle) to be covered by the leading
>> line.  i haven't found a way, using just css on the <span> enclosing the
>> title, to get around that.
>>
>> the easy fix is to enclose the title in a
>> <table><tr><td>...<table><tr><**td>.  actually, i need to use <table
>> style="border-spacing: 0px">... to get rid of extraneous spacing imposed
>> by user-agent stylesheets.  i'm far from certain this is the best way to
>> do it, or even an acceptible one.  for quick and dirty, though, it works
>> like a charm.
>>
>> what's the right way to do this?  (and why do people tolerate the ragged
>> right margin, as is?  do people just not use collective.portlet.explore?
>>  or always use very short titles?)
>>
>> i should add that my time for attention to this is extremely limited -
>> i'm just trying to make the thing useful, in a centrally maintainable way.
>>
>> ken manheimer
>>
>>
>> ______________________________**_________________
>> Product-Developers mailing list
>> Product-Developers at lists.**plone.org <Product-Developers at lists.plone.org>
>> https://lists.plone.org/**mailman/listinfo/plone-**product-developers<https://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/plone-product-developers>
>>
>
>
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From ken.manheimer at gmail.com  Mon Aug  1 22:42:45 2011
From: ken.manheimer at gmail.com (ken manheimer)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 18:42:45 -0400
Subject: [Product-Developers] showing the folder order in a collection?
Message-ID: <CAAT_zTHyu_3omBb9M5jheagJ2adVdLP2O46BqKYewntcbvT+jg@mail.gmail.com>

i've wanted for a long time to be able to show the contents of a folder,
ordered as they would be in the folder, along with some text describing each
item, plus some rich text above describing the folder, as a whole.  there is
a number of combinations of various facilities that come close to providing
this simple arrangement, but fail in tantalizing ways.  have i missed
something?

the obvious answer is to use a collection with "No sort order" for the
sorting criterion.  unfortunately, "No sort order" doesn't wind up being the
same sort order as that of the items in the folder, except sometimes, by
accident.  (of course - the collection doesn't consults the catalog, not the
folder, for the contents.)  that's a showstopper for me - what i really want
is to be able to adjust the ordering of the items in the folder in order to
adjust their ordering in the collection.

the other tantalizingly close option is to just use a folder, with an
(optionally, customized) summary, standard, or table view, and use the
folder Description text as the introductory text.  alas, the folder
Description is plain, not rich text.

well, how about using a collage, with a folder inside it?  aargh, that's a
mess - navigation portlets don't track the contents properly, etc.

i know i should just create a derivative folder content type that has an
additional, rich-text area before the listing (and after, if i really want).
 unfortunately, i've given up on finding the time to do that, so i'm asking
if anyone has faced the same need, and found a solution?

ken
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From gil at usecm.com  Tue Aug  2 08:01:34 2011
From: gil at usecm.com (Gil Forcada)
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 10:01:34 +0200
Subject: [Product-Developers] showing the folder order in a collection?
In-Reply-To: <CAAT_zTHyu_3omBb9M5jheagJ2adVdLP2O46BqKYewntcbvT+jg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAT_zTHyu_3omBb9M5jheagJ2adVdLP2O46BqKYewntcbvT+jg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAKwY+R1qMCLLH5EQH0B+6TjmJR6MEALYvE4aaYiyKMK0hOf_PA@mail.gmail.com>

2011/8/2 ken manheimer <ken.manheimer at gmail.com>

> i've wanted for a long time to be able to show the contents of a folder,
> ordered as they would be in the folder, along with some text describing each
> item, plus some rich text above describing the folder, as a whole.  there is
> a number of combinations of various facilities that come close to providing
> this simple arrangement, but fail in tantalizing ways.  have i missed
> something?
>
> the obvious answer is to use a collection with "No sort order" for the
> sorting criterion.  unfortunately, "No sort order" doesn't wind up being the
> same sort order as that of the items in the folder, except sometimes, by
> accident.  (of course - the collection doesn't consults the catalog, not the
> folder, for the contents.)  that's a showstopper for me - what i really want
> is to be able to adjust the ordering of the items in the folder in order to
> adjust their ordering in the collection.
>
> the other tantalizingly close option is to just use a folder, with an
> (optionally, customized) summary, standard, or table view, and use the
> folder Description text as the introductory text.  alas, the folder
> Description is plain, not rich text.
>
> well, how about using a collage, with a folder inside it?  aargh, that's a
> mess - navigation portlets don't track the contents properly, etc.
>
> i know i should just create a derivative folder content type that has an
> additional, rich-text area before the listing (and after, if i really want).
>  unfortunately, i've given up on finding the time to do that, so i'm asking
> if anyone has faced the same need, and found a solution?
>
> ken
>
>
Hi,

To me this is just a custom view of a folder (even selectable via the a
Display menu) and the key is the method listFolderContents on the context
object.

Just add something like this on you pt:

<tal:content repeat="item context/listFolderContents">
    <h1 tal:content="item/Title">
Element title</h1>
    <p tal:content="item/Description">Element description</p>
    <div tal:content="structure item/Body">Element body</div>
</tal:content>


Cheers,



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From r.ritz at biologie.hu-berlin.de  Tue Aug  2 08:25:26 2011
From: r.ritz at biologie.hu-berlin.de (Raphael Ritz)
Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2011 10:25:26 +0200
Subject: [Product-Developers] showing the folder order in a collection?
In-Reply-To: <CAAT_zTHyu_3omBb9M5jheagJ2adVdLP2O46BqKYewntcbvT+jg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAT_zTHyu_3omBb9M5jheagJ2adVdLP2O46BqKYewntcbvT+jg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <j18c9m$hr3$1@dough.gmane.org>

On 8/2/11 12:42 AM, ken manheimer wrote:
> i've wanted for a long time to be able to show the contents of a folder,
> ordered as they would be in the folder, along with some text describing
> each item, plus some rich text above describing the folder, as a whole.
>   there is a number of combinations of various facilities that come
> close to providing this simple arrangement, but fail in tantalizing
> ways.  have i missed something?

maybe ;-)

The catalog does now about order in a folder through the

   getObjPositionInParent

index. In case that's not available for sorting in a
collection (I didn't check) you can enable it in

   <site>/portal_atct/atct_manageTopicIndex

Is that what you are looking for?

Raphael

>
> the obvious answer is to use a collection with "No sort order" for the
> sorting criterion.  unfortunately, "No sort order" doesn't wind up being
> the same sort order as that of the items in the folder, except
> sometimes, by accident.  (of course - the collection doesn't consults
> the catalog, not the folder, for the contents.)  that's a showstopper
> for me - what i really want is to be able to adjust the ordering of the
> items in the folder in order to adjust their ordering in the collection.
>
> the other tantalizingly close option is to just use a folder, with an
> (optionally, customized) summary, standard, or table view, and use the
> folder Description text as the introductory text.  alas, the folder
> Description is plain, not rich text.
>
> well, how about using a collage, with a folder inside it?  aargh, that's
> a mess - navigation portlets don't track the contents properly, etc.
>
> i know i should just create a derivative folder content type that has an
> additional, rich-text area before the listing (and after, if i really
> want).  unfortunately, i've given up on finding the time to do that, so
> i'm asking if anyone has faced the same need, and found a solution?
>
> ken
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Product-Developers mailing list
> Product-Developers at lists.plone.org
> https://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/plone-product-developers



From ken.manheimer at gmail.com  Tue Aug  2 15:21:53 2011
From: ken.manheimer at gmail.com (ken manheimer)
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 11:21:53 -0400
Subject: [Product-Developers] showing the folder order in a collection?
In-Reply-To: <j18c9m$hr3$1@dough.gmane.org>
References: <CAAT_zTHyu_3omBb9M5jheagJ2adVdLP2O46BqKYewntcbvT+jg@mail.gmail.com>
 <j18c9m$hr3$1@dough.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <CAAT_zTFNVrvGHTccUNCFteHBKwOtB+sja37j4zCjcFVH=ssEgA@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 4:25 AM, Raphael Ritz
<r.ritz at biologie.hu-berlin.de>wrote:

> On 8/2/11 12:42 AM, ken manheimer wrote:
>
>> i've wanted for a long time to be able to show the contents of a folder,
>> ordered as they would be in the folder, along with some text describing
>> each item, plus some rich text above describing the folder, as a whole.
>>  there is a number of combinations of various facilities that come
>> close to providing this simple arrangement, but fail in tantalizing
>> ways.  have i missed something?
>>
>
> maybe ;-)
>
> The catalog does now about order in a folder through the
>
>  getObjPositionInParent
>
> index. In case that's not available for sorting in a
> collection (I didn't check) you can enable it in
>
>  <site>/portal_atct/atct_**manageTopicIndex
>
> Is that what you are looking for?
>

yes, it looks like exactly what i'm seeking.  (gil forcada's suggestion
about using a custom folder display view is excellent, too.  maybe i just
need to read martin aspelli's book?)  i'm running into problems getting it
working, and have to investigate further.

i did have to enable the getObjPositionInParent field in the collections
configlet (thanks much for the clear path to find my way there), and that
involved using the "All fields" link to expose the option.

once that's done, though, i still don't see the "Order in folder" friendly
name among the collections sort criteria.  i double checked everything to
see if i got the order wrong, etc, and even changed one of the working
friendly names to verify that the change shows in the collection sort
criteria list, which it did.  will investigate further soon, but mention it
in case i'm (again:-) missing something.

ken

Raphael
>
>
>> the obvious answer is to use a collection with "No sort order" for the
>> sorting criterion.  unfortunately, "No sort order" doesn't wind up being
>> the same sort order as that of the items in the folder, except
>> sometimes, by accident.  (of course - the collection doesn't consults
>> the catalog, not the folder, for the contents.)  that's a showstopper
>> for me - what i really want is to be able to adjust the ordering of the
>> items in the folder in order to adjust their ordering in the collection.
>>
>> the other tantalizingly close option is to just use a folder, with an
>> (optionally, customized) summary, standard, or table view, and use the
>> folder Description text as the introductory text.  alas, the folder
>> Description is plain, not rich text.
>>
>> well, how about using a collage, with a folder inside it?  aargh, that's
>> a mess - navigation portlets don't track the contents properly, etc.
>>
>> i know i should just create a derivative folder content type that has an
>> additional, rich-text area before the listing (and after, if i really
>> want).  unfortunately, i've given up on finding the time to do that, so
>> i'm asking if anyone has faced the same need, and found a solution?
>>
>> ken
>>
>>
>> ______________________________**_________________
>> Product-Developers mailing list
>> Product-Developers at lists.**plone.org <Product-Developers at lists.plone.org>
>> https://lists.plone.org/**mailman/listinfo/plone-**product-developers<https://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/plone-product-developers>
>>
>
>
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From hector.velarde at gmail.com  Tue Aug  2 15:55:44 2011
From: hector.velarde at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?H=E9ctor_Velarde?=)
Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2011 10:55:44 -0500
Subject: [Product-Developers] where is IRelatedItems in Dexterity 1.0.1?
Message-ID: <4E381E00.9050307@gmail.com>

I noticed there's a new 1.0.1 version of Dexterity available and that 
there have been some changes on the IRelatedItems behavior; as the 
following no longer works, what do I have to use now?

<element value="plone.app.dexterity.behaviors.metadata.IRelatedItems" />

can someone update the documentation?

http://plone.org/products/dexterity/documentation/manual/developer-manual/reference/standard-behaviors

best regards
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From davidglick at groundwire.org  Tue Aug  2 15:58:15 2011
From: davidglick at groundwire.org (David Glick)
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 11:58:15 -0400
Subject: [Product-Developers] where is IRelatedItems in Dexterity 1.0.1?
In-Reply-To: <4E381E00.9050307@gmail.com>
References: <4E381E00.9050307@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4E381E97.6000702@groundwire.org>

On 8/2/11 11:55 AM, H?ctor Velarde wrote:
> I noticed there's a new 1.0.1 version of Dexterity available and that
> there have been some changes on the IRelatedItems behavior; as the
> following no longer works, what do I have to use now?
>
> <element value="plone.app.dexterity.behaviors.metadata.IRelatedItems" />
>
> can someone update the documentation?
>
> http://plone.org/products/dexterity/documentation/manual/developer-manual/reference/standard-behaviors
>
> best regards
It is now in plone.app.relationfield -- but the old one is supposed to 
just be deprecated, as opposed to not working. I'll try to check on that 
and update the documentation soon.
David


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From hector.velarde at gmail.com  Tue Aug  2 16:04:00 2011
From: hector.velarde at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?H=E9ctor_Velarde?=)
Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2011 11:04:00 -0500
Subject: [Product-Developers] where is IRelatedItems in Dexterity 1.0.1?
In-Reply-To: <4E381E97.6000702@groundwire.org>
References: <4E381E00.9050307@gmail.com> <4E381E97.6000702@groundwire.org>
Message-ID: <4E381FF0.6060406@gmail.com>

I added the following to my content XML file inside 
profile/default/types but it is still not working:

<element value="plone.app.relationfield.behavior.IRelatedItems" />

perhaps I'm missing something else...

H?ctor Velarde

El 02/08/11 10:58, David Glick escribi?:
> On 8/2/11 11:55 AM, H?ctor Velarde wrote:
> It is now in plone.app.relationfield -- but the old one is supposed to
> just be deprecated, as opposed to not working. I'll try to check on that
> and update the documentation soon.
> David

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From hector.velarde at gmail.com  Tue Aug  2 16:12:30 2011
From: hector.velarde at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?H=E9ctor_Velarde?=)
Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2011 11:12:30 -0500
Subject: [Product-Developers] where is IRelatedItems in Dexterity 1.0.1?
In-Reply-To: <4E38205B.2020903@gmail.com>
References: <4E381E00.9050307@gmail.com> <4E381E97.6000702@groundwire.org>
 <4E381FF0.6060406@gmail.com> <4E38205B.2020903@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4E3821EE.5050603@gmail.com>

sorry, David... I forgot to include that basic information the first 
time :-p

I'm using Plone 4.1 and the problem is the behavior is not applied to my 
content type: no Related Items field is available and the behavior is 
not selected on the content type when I snoop around the Dexterity 
configlet.

if I select the behavior on the configlet, then the field is available.

best regards

H?ctor Velarde

El 02/08/11 11:05, David Glick escribi?:
> On 8/2/11 12:04 PM, H?ctor Velarde wrote:
>> I added the following to my content XML file inside
>> profile/default/types but it is still not working:
>>
>> <element value="plone.app.relationfield.behavior.IRelatedItems" />
>>
>> perhaps I'm missing something else...
>>
> What in particular is not working? What version of Plone are you on?
> David

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From hector.velarde at gmail.com  Tue Aug  2 17:55:33 2011
From: hector.velarde at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?H=E9ctor_Velarde?=)
Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2011 12:55:33 -0500
Subject: [Product-Developers] where is IRelatedItems in Dexterity 1.0.1?
In-Reply-To: <4E3821EE.5050603@gmail.com>
References: <4E381E00.9050307@gmail.com> <4E381E97.6000702@groundwire.org>
 <4E381FF0.6060406@gmail.com> <4E38205B.2020903@gmail.com>
 <4E3821EE.5050603@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4E383A15.5000602@gmail.com>

solved, David!

I created a test to verify this was working:

   >>> fti.behaviors
   []

   >>> browser.open('http://nohost/plone/++add++dinosaur')
   >>> 'Related Items' in browser.contents
   False

We can declare that it supports the "related items" behavior defined in
plone.app.relationfield (normally this would be done via Generic Setup):

   >>> fti.behaviors = ('plone.app.relationfield.behavior.IRelatedItems',)

   >>> browser.open('http://nohost/plone/++add++dinosaur')
   >>> 'Related Items' in browser.contents
   True

after that, I erased my content type from the Dexterity configlet, 
remove the package and reinstalled it.

it is working now... thanks!

H?ctor Velarde

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From hector.velarde at gmail.com  Tue Aug  2 21:38:04 2011
From: hector.velarde at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?H=E9ctor_Velarde?=)
Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2011 16:38:04 -0500
Subject: [Product-Developers] location field on Dexterity based content types
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are there any plans to include a location field on a behavior of 
Dexterity content types?
-- 
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From ken.manheimer at gmail.com  Tue Aug  2 22:57:10 2011
From: ken.manheimer at gmail.com (ken manheimer)
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 18:57:10 -0400
Subject: [Product-Developers] showing the folder order in a collection?
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On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 11:21 AM, ken manheimer <ken.manheimer at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 4:25 AM, Raphael Ritz <r.ritz at biologie.hu-berlin.de
> > wrote:
>
>> On 8/2/11 12:42 AM, ken manheimer wrote:
>>
>>> i've wanted for a long time to be able to show the contents of a folder,
>>> ordered as they would be in the folder, along with some text describing
>>> each item, plus some rich text above describing the folder, as a whole.
>>>  there is a number of combinations of various facilities that come
>>> close to providing this simple arrangement, but fail in tantalizing
>>> ways.  have i missed something?
>>>
>>
>> maybe ;-)
>>
>> The catalog does now about order in a folder through the
>>
>>  getObjPositionInParent
>>
>> index. In case that's not available for sorting in a
>> collection (I didn't check) you can enable it in
>>
>>  <site>/portal_atct/atct_**manageTopicIndex
>>
>> Is that what you are looking for?
>>
>
> yes, it looks like exactly what i'm seeking.  (gil forcada's suggestion
> about using a custom folder display view is excellent, too.  maybe i just
> need to read martin aspelli's book?)  i'm running into problems getting it
> working, and have to investigate further.
>

alas, this turns out to be a false lead.  the collections configlet doesn't
offer any way to change the selection of criteria for *sort order*.  it only
offers ways to change the indexes to be used for collection *searching* and
*field display*.

(moreover, adding getObjPositionInParent/'Order in folder' to the search
criteria doesn't actually add an "Order in folder" option in the collection
"Add new search criteria" menu!  the getObjPositionInParent has no "Allowed
Criteria", so there's nothing by which to qualify and disqualify items in
the search.  hence, the option is filtered out in the selection form.  it
probably should be filtered out from the "All fields" alternatives in the
collection configlet, as well.)

still, i appreciate the suggestion - i learned something about ways to
adjust collection knobs (and limitations on those ways).  i may be better
off with a custom "display" view for a folder - except i have doubts that'll
be trivial, because it requires something to hold and edit the rich text i
want to include, and that's not part of a folder.  aargh again.

it's looking, once again, like the built-in types do not provide for my
desired, basic use case, even by tailoring custom views...

ken


> i did have to enable the getObjPositionInParent field in the collections
> configlet (thanks much for the clear path to find my way there), and that
> involved using the "All fields" link to expose the option.
>
> once that's done, though, i still don't see the "Order in folder" friendly
> name among the collections sort criteria.  i double checked everything to
> see if i got the order wrong, etc, and even changed one of the working
> friendly names to verify that the change shows in the collection sort
> criteria list, which it did.  will investigate further soon, but mention it
> in case i'm (again:-) missing something.
>
> ken
>
> Raphael
>>
>>
>>> the obvious answer is to use a collection with "No sort order" for the
>>> sorting criterion.  unfortunately, "No sort order" doesn't wind up being
>>> the same sort order as that of the items in the folder, except
>>> sometimes, by accident.  (of course - the collection doesn't consults
>>> the catalog, not the folder, for the contents.)  that's a showstopper
>>> for me - what i really want is to be able to adjust the ordering of the
>>> items in the folder in order to adjust their ordering in the collection.
>>>
>>> the other tantalizingly close option is to just use a folder, with an
>>> (optionally, customized) summary, standard, or table view, and use the
>>> folder Description text as the introductory text.  alas, the folder
>>> Description is plain, not rich text.
>>>
>>> well, how about using a collage, with a folder inside it?  aargh, that's
>>> a mess - navigation portlets don't track the contents properly, etc.
>>>
>>> i know i should just create a derivative folder content type that has an
>>> additional, rich-text area before the listing (and after, if i really
>>> want).  unfortunately, i've given up on finding the time to do that, so
>>> i'm asking if anyone has faced the same need, and found a solution?
>>>
>>> ken
>>>
>>>
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From ken.manheimer at gmail.com  Tue Aug  2 23:16:10 2011
From: ken.manheimer at gmail.com (ken manheimer)
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 19:16:10 -0400
Subject: [Product-Developers] showing the folder order in a collection?
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[i forgot to cc the group on my initial response to gil, and then had a
brainstorm about a small change to collections that would provide a good
solution to my problem, which i'm including in this resend.]

thanks, gil, for the suggestion.  the problem i see is that i want to have a
rich text description included before the listing of the items, and folders
aren't structured to hold such a rich-text description.  it's very good to
know that i could fairly easily hook up a custom presentation (view) of the
items in a folder, though.

in lieue of a general solution i'm using a collection, and setting the short
names of the folder contents so that i can use the collection's short name
sorting to order them how i please.  it really sucks that i have to go in
and rename the objects if i want to change the sorting - particularly when
folders have that beautiful drag-and-drop ordering mechanism, but
collections just can't be made to obey it...

it occurs to me that a great solution for the collection-based approach
would be to have the "No sort order" respect the sorting order of the items
in their respective folders.  when combining items from different folders,
they could be grouped by folder.  more of a "Sorted by folder" sorting,
which i think would be generally useful, including solving my use case.

ken


On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 4:01 AM, Gil Forcada <gil at usecm.com> wrote:

>
>
> 2011/8/2 ken manheimer <ken.manheimer at gmail.com>
>
>> i've wanted for a long time to be able to show the contents of a folder,
>> ordered as they would be in the folder, along with some text describing each
>> item, plus some rich text above describing the folder, as a whole.  there is
>> a number of combinations of various facilities that come close to providing
>> this simple arrangement, but fail in tantalizing ways.  have i missed
>> something?
>>
>> the obvious answer is to use a collection with "No sort order" for the
>> sorting criterion.  unfortunately, "No sort order" doesn't wind up being the
>> same sort order as that of the items in the folder, except sometimes, by
>> accident.  (of course - the collection doesn't consults the catalog, not the
>> folder, for the contents.)  that's a showstopper for me - what i really want
>> is to be able to adjust the ordering of the items in the folder in order to
>> adjust their ordering in the collection.
>>
>> the other tantalizingly close option is to just use a folder, with an
>> (optionally, customized) summary, standard, or table view, and use the
>> folder Description text as the introductory text.  alas, the folder
>> Description is plain, not rich text.
>>
>> well, how about using a collage, with a folder inside it?  aargh, that's a
>> mess - navigation portlets don't track the contents properly, etc.
>>
>> i know i should just create a derivative folder content type that has an
>> additional, rich-text area before the listing (and after, if i really want).
>>  unfortunately, i've given up on finding the time to do that, so i'm asking
>> if anyone has faced the same need, and found a solution?
>>
>> ken
>>
>>
> Hi,
>
> To me this is just a custom view of a folder (even selectable via the a
> Display menu) and the key is the method listFolderContents on the context
> object.
>
> Just add something like this on you pt:
>
> <tal:content repeat="item context/listFolderContents">
>     <h1 tal:content="item/Title">
> Element title</h1>
>     <p tal:content="item/Description">Element description</p>
>     <div tal:content="structure item/Body">Element body</div>
> </tal:content>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> --
>
> *Gil Forcada**
> *C/Llacuna, 166 2n.2a (Edifici Llacuna)
> telf: 93.188.88.12 - 619.65.34.92
> fax: 93.320.93.97
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From r.ritz at biologie.hu-berlin.de  Wed Aug  3 09:58:39 2011
From: r.ritz at biologie.hu-berlin.de (Raphael Ritz)
Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 11:58:39 +0200
Subject: [Product-Developers] showing the folder order in a collection?
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On 8/3/11 12:57 AM, ken manheimer wrote:

[..]

>         The catalog does now about order in a folder through the
>
>           getObjPositionInParent
>
>         index. In case that's not available for sorting in a
>         collection (I didn't check) you can enable it in
>
>         <site>/portal_atct/atct___manageTopicIndex
>
>         Is that what you are looking for?
>
>
>     yes, it looks like exactly what i'm seeking.  (gil forcada's
>     suggestion about using a custom folder display view is excellent,
>     too.  maybe i just need to read martin aspelli's book?)  i'm running
>     into problems getting it working, and have to investigate further.
>
>
> alas, this turns out to be a false lead.  the collections configlet
> doesn't offer any way to change the selection of criteria for *sort
> order*.  it only offers ways to change the indexes to be used for
> collection /searching/ and /field display/.

That's disappointing :-(

Which version of Plone?
In a somewhat older Plone 3 based site I could enable the
the index for sorting as described.

Looking into this a bit my guess is that this is due to a
new index type that was introduced for 'getObjPositionInParent'
specifically.

In Products/ATContentTypes/criteria/__init__.py ALL_INDICES and
SORT_INDICES are hard coded. What happens if you add
'GopipIndex' (the new index type) there (to both)?
If nothing happens there might be some configuration missing still.

Feel free to file a ticket for this. At least I would consider
this a regression. Oh, and this made me look whether there might
be one already and sure enough there is

http://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/11151

Does the patch provided there work for you?

Raphael


>
> (moreover, adding getObjPositionInParent/'Order in folder' to the search
> criteria doesn't actually add an "Order in folder" option in the
> collection "Add new search criteria" menu!  the getObjPositionInParent
> has no "Allowed Criteria", so there's nothing by which to qualify and
> disqualify items in the search.  hence, the option is filtered out in
> the selection form.  it probably should be filtered out from the "All
> fields" alternatives in the collection configlet, as well.)
>
> still, i appreciate the suggestion - i learned something about ways to
> adjust collection knobs (and limitations on those ways).  i may be
> better off with a custom "display" view for a folder - except i have
> doubts that'll be trivial, because it requires something to hold and
> edit the rich text i want to include, and that's not part of a folder.
>   aargh again.
>
> it's looking, once again, like the built-in types do not provide for my
> desired, basic use case, even by tailoring custom views...
>
> ken
>
>     i did have to enable the getObjPositionInParent field in the
>     collections configlet (thanks much for the clear path to find my way
>     there), and that involved using the "All fields" link to expose the
>     option.
>
>     once that's done, though, i still don't see the "Order in folder"
>     friendly name among the collections sort criteria.  i double checked
>     everything to see if i got the order wrong, etc, and even changed
>     one of the working friendly names to verify that the change shows in
>     the collection sort criteria list, which it did.  will investigate
>     further soon, but mention it in case i'm (again:-) missing something.
>
>     ken
>
>         Raphael
>
>
>             the obvious answer is to use a collection with "No sort
>             order" for the
>             sorting criterion.  unfortunately, "No sort order" doesn't
>             wind up being
>             the same sort order as that of the items in the folder, except
>             sometimes, by accident.  (of course - the collection doesn't
>             consults
>             the catalog, not the folder, for the contents.)  that's a
>             showstopper
>             for me - what i really want is to be able to adjust the
>             ordering of the
>             items in the folder in order to adjust their ordering in the
>             collection.
>
>             the other tantalizingly close option is to just use a
>             folder, with an
>             (optionally, customized) summary, standard, or table view,
>             and use the
>             folder Description text as the introductory text.  alas, the
>             folder
>             Description is plain, not rich text.
>
>             well, how about using a collage, with a folder inside it?
>               aargh, that's
>             a mess - navigation portlets don't track the contents
>             properly, etc.
>
>             i know i should just create a derivative folder content type
>             that has an
>             additional, rich-text area before the listing (and after, if
>             i really
>             want).  unfortunately, i've given up on finding the time to
>             do that, so
>             i'm asking if anyone has faced the same need, and found a
>             solution?
>
>             ken
>
>
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>             <mailto:Product-Developers at lists.plone.org>
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From ken.manheimer at gmail.com  Wed Aug  3 17:51:23 2011
From: ken.manheimer at gmail.com (ken manheimer)
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 13:51:23 -0400
Subject: [Product-Developers] showing the folder order in a collection?
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On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 5:58 AM, Raphael Ritz
<r.ritz at biologie.hu-berlin.de>wrote:

> On 8/3/11 12:57 AM, ken manheimer wrote:
>
> [..]
>
>         The catalog does now about order in a folder through the
>>
>>          getObjPositionInParent
>>
>>        index. In case that's not available for sorting in a
>>        collection (I didn't check) you can enable it in
>>
>>        <site>/portal_atct/atct___**manageTopicIndex
>>
>>        Is that what you are looking for?
>>
>>    yes, it looks like exactly what i'm seeking.  (gil forcada's
>>    suggestion about using a custom folder display view is excellent,
>>    too.  maybe i just need to read martin aspelli's book?)  i'm running
>>    into problems getting it working, and have to investigate further.
>>
>> alas, this turns out to be a false lead.  the collections configlet
>> doesn't offer any way to change the selection of criteria for *sort
>> order*.  it only offers ways to change the indexes to be used for
>> collection /searching/ and /field display/.
>>
>
> That's disappointing :-(


truly.  but, happily, you've provided a resolution...


> Which version of Plone?
>

4.0.7 - i should have mentioned that earlier.


> In a somewhat older Plone 3 based site I could enable the
> the index for sorting as described.
>
> Looking into this a bit my guess is that this is due to a
> new index type that was introduced for 'getObjPositionInParent'
> specifically.
>
> In Products/ATContentTypes/**criteria/__init__.py ALL_INDICES and
> SORT_INDICES are hard coded. What happens if you add
> 'GopipIndex' (the new index type) there (to both)?
> If nothing happens there might be some configuration missing still.
>
> Feel free to file a ticket for this. At least I would consider
> this a regression. Oh, and this made me look whether there might
> be one already and sure enough there is
>
> http://dev.plone.org/plone/**ticket/11151<http://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/11151>
>
> Does the patch provided there work for you?
>

hooray - yes!

i've added a comment in the issue asking for the patch to be included in
plone.  i should have mentioned the regression, and tests to protect against
it happening again...

this is great - thanks much for seeing this through!

ken


> Raphael
>
>
>
>> (moreover, adding getObjPositionInParent/'Order in folder' to the search
>> criteria doesn't actually add an "Order in folder" option in the
>> collection "Add new search criteria" menu!  the getObjPositionInParent
>> has no "Allowed Criteria", so there's nothing by which to qualify and
>> disqualify items in the search.  hence, the option is filtered out in
>> the selection form.  it probably should be filtered out from the "All
>> fields" alternatives in the collection configlet, as well.)
>>
>> still, i appreciate the suggestion - i learned something about ways to
>> adjust collection knobs (and limitations on those ways).  i may be
>> better off with a custom "display" view for a folder - except i have
>> doubts that'll be trivial, because it requires something to hold and
>> edit the rich text i want to include, and that's not part of a folder.
>>  aargh again.
>>
>> it's looking, once again, like the built-in types do not provide for my
>> desired, basic use case, even by tailoring custom views...
>>
>> ken
>>
>>    i did have to enable the getObjPositionInParent field in the
>>    collections configlet (thanks much for the clear path to find my way
>>    there), and that involved using the "All fields" link to expose the
>>    option.
>>
>>    once that's done, though, i still don't see the "Order in folder"
>>    friendly name among the collections sort criteria.  i double checked
>>    everything to see if i got the order wrong, etc, and even changed
>>    one of the working friendly names to verify that the change shows in
>>    the collection sort criteria list, which it did.  will investigate
>>    further soon, but mention it in case i'm (again:-) missing something.
>>
>>    ken
>>
>>        Raphael
>>
>>
>>            the obvious answer is to use a collection with "No sort
>>            order" for the
>>            sorting criterion.  unfortunately, "No sort order" doesn't
>>            wind up being
>>            the same sort order as that of the items in the folder, except
>>            sometimes, by accident.  (of course - the collection doesn't
>>            consults
>>            the catalog, not the folder, for the contents.)  that's a
>>            showstopper
>>            for me - what i really want is to be able to adjust the
>>            ordering of the
>>            items in the folder in order to adjust their ordering in the
>>            collection.
>>
>>            the other tantalizingly close option is to just use a
>>            folder, with an
>>            (optionally, customized) summary, standard, or table view,
>>            and use the
>>            folder Description text as the introductory text.  alas, the
>>            folder
>>            Description is plain, not rich text.
>>
>>            well, how about using a collage, with a folder inside it?
>>              aargh, that's
>>            a mess - navigation portlets don't track the contents
>>            properly, etc.
>>
>>            i know i should just create a derivative folder content type
>>            that has an
>>            additional, rich-text area before the listing (and after, if
>>            i really
>>            want).  unfortunately, i've given up on finding the time to
>>            do that, so
>>            i'm asking if anyone has faced the same need, and found a
>>            solution?
>>
>>            ken
>>
>>
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From itconsense at gmail.com  Thu Aug  4 09:56:13 2011
From: itconsense at gmail.com (Tom Gross)
Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 11:56:13 +0200
Subject: [Product-Developers] Testing collective.contentleadimage
Message-ID: <j1dqbt$c4a$1@dough.gmane.org>

Hi

I have written a product which depends on collective.contentleadimage 
via a genericsetup dependency. Running the unittests of my product gives 
the following error:

Traceback (most recent call last):
   File 
"/home/tom/workspace/eggs/zope.testing-3.8.3-py2.4.egg/zope/testing/testrunner/runner.py", 
line 364, in run_layer
     setup_layer(options, layer, setup_layers)
   File 
"/home/tom/workspace/eggs/zope.testing-3.8.3-py2.4.egg/zope/testing/testrunner/runner.py", 
line 629, in setup_layer
     layer.setUp()
   File 
"/home/tom/workspace/eggs/Products.PloneTestCase-0.9.13-py2.4.egg/Products/PloneTestCase/layer.py", 
line 33, in setUp
     func(*args, **kw)
   File 
"/home/tom/workspace/eggs/Products.PloneTestCase-0.9.13-py2.4.egg/Products/PloneTestCase/setup.py", 
line 169, in setupPloneSite
     base_profile, extension_profiles).run()
   File 
"/home/tom/workspace/eggs/Products.PloneTestCase-0.9.13-py2.4.egg/Products/PloneTestCase/setup.py", 
line 220, in run
     self._setupHomeFolder()
   File 
"/home/tom/workspace/eggs/Products.PloneTestCase-0.9.13-py2.4.egg/Products/PloneTestCase/setup.py", 
line 326, in _setupHomeFolder
     self._commit()
   File 
"/home/tom/workspace/eggs/Products.PloneTestCase-0.9.13-py2.4.egg/Products/PloneTestCase/setup.py", 
line 369, in _commit
     transaction.commit()
   File 
"/home/tom/workspace/eggs/ZODB3-3.8.6-py2.4-linux-x86_64.egg/transaction/_manager.py", 
line 93, in commit
     return self.get().commit()
   File 
"/home/tom/workspace/eggs/ZODB3-3.8.6-py2.4-linux-x86_64.egg/transaction/_transaction.py", 
line 325, in commit
     self._commitResources()
   File 
"/home/tom/workspace/eggs/ZODB3-3.8.6-py2.4-linux-x86_64.egg/transaction/_transaction.py", 
line 424, in _commitResources
     rm.commit(self)
   File 
"/home/tom/workspace/eggs/ZODB3-3.8.6-py2.4-linux-x86_64.egg/ZODB/Connection.py", 
line 545, in commit
     self._commit(transaction)
   File 
"/home/tom/workspace/eggs/ZODB3-3.8.6-py2.4-linux-x86_64.egg/ZODB/Connection.py", 
line 590, in _commit
     self._store_objects(ObjectWriter(obj), transaction)
   File 
"/home/tom/workspace/eggs/ZODB3-3.8.6-py2.4-linux-x86_64.egg/ZODB/Connection.py", 
line 628, in _store_objects
     raise Unsupported(
Unsupported: Storing Blobs in <ZODB.DemoStorage.DemoStorage instance at 
0x27f2a28> is not supported.

Uncommenting the dependency works as expected. Is there

a) a way of disabeling the Blob-storage of collective.contentleadimage 
while unittesting

or

b) a way to conditionally include a dependency via generic setup

or

c) a solution a haven't thought of?

Thanks
-Tom



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From itconsense at gmail.com  Thu Aug  4 10:26:18 2011
From: itconsense at gmail.com (Tom Gross)
Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 12:26:18 +0200
Subject: [Product-Developers] Testing collective.contentleadimage
In-Reply-To: <j1dqbt$c4a$1@dough.gmane.org>
References: <j1dqbt$c4a$1@dough.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <j1ds4a$c4a$2@dough.gmane.org>

Ok, I found the issue myself. Blobs in Demostorage are supported ZODB >= 
3.9.0. I'm using Plone 3.3 with ZODB 3.8.6 (with blobs obviously ;)

For the records. I'm now installing the product at a later time. Like this:

class MyProductTestCase(ptc.PloneTestCase):
     """ A test case for MyProduct """

     def afterSetUp(self):
         self.setRoles(['Manager'])
         gs_tool = self.portal['portal_setup']
 
gs_tool.runAllImportStepsFromProfile('profile-Products.MyProduct:default',
                                              ignore_dependencies=True)

# good dependencies ...
PROFILES = ['Products.ATVocabularyManager:default',]

ptc.setupPloneSite(extension_profiles=PROFILES)


Thanks and cheers
-Tom

On 08/04/2011 11:56 AM, Tom Gross wrote:
> Hi
>
> I have written a product which depends on collective.contentleadimage
> via a genericsetup dependency. Running the unittests of my product gives
> the following error:
>
> Traceback (most recent call last):
> File
> "/home/tom/workspace/eggs/zope.testing-3.8.3-py2.4.egg/zope/testing/testrunner/runner.py",
> line 364, in run_layer
> setup_layer(options, layer, setup_layers)
> File
> "/home/tom/workspace/eggs/zope.testing-3.8.3-py2.4.egg/zope/testing/testrunner/runner.py",
> line 629, in setup_layer
> layer.setUp()
> File
> "/home/tom/workspace/eggs/Products.PloneTestCase-0.9.13-py2.4.egg/Products/PloneTestCase/layer.py",
> line 33, in setUp
> func(*args, **kw)
> File
> "/home/tom/workspace/eggs/Products.PloneTestCase-0.9.13-py2.4.egg/Products/PloneTestCase/setup.py",
> line 169, in setupPloneSite
> base_profile, extension_profiles).run()
> File
> "/home/tom/workspace/eggs/Products.PloneTestCase-0.9.13-py2.4.egg/Products/PloneTestCase/setup.py",
> line 220, in run
> self._setupHomeFolder()
> File
> "/home/tom/workspace/eggs/Products.PloneTestCase-0.9.13-py2.4.egg/Products/PloneTestCase/setup.py",
> line 326, in _setupHomeFolder
> self._commit()
> File
> "/home/tom/workspace/eggs/Products.PloneTestCase-0.9.13-py2.4.egg/Products/PloneTestCase/setup.py",
> line 369, in _commit
> transaction.commit()
> File
> "/home/tom/workspace/eggs/ZODB3-3.8.6-py2.4-linux-x86_64.egg/transaction/_manager.py",
> line 93, in commit
> return self.get().commit()
> File
> "/home/tom/workspace/eggs/ZODB3-3.8.6-py2.4-linux-x86_64.egg/transaction/_transaction.py",
> line 325, in commit
> self._commitResources()
> File
> "/home/tom/workspace/eggs/ZODB3-3.8.6-py2.4-linux-x86_64.egg/transaction/_transaction.py",
> line 424, in _commitResources
> rm.commit(self)
> File
> "/home/tom/workspace/eggs/ZODB3-3.8.6-py2.4-linux-x86_64.egg/ZODB/Connection.py",
> line 545, in commit
> self._commit(transaction)
> File
> "/home/tom/workspace/eggs/ZODB3-3.8.6-py2.4-linux-x86_64.egg/ZODB/Connection.py",
> line 590, in _commit
> self._store_objects(ObjectWriter(obj), transaction)
> File
> "/home/tom/workspace/eggs/ZODB3-3.8.6-py2.4-linux-x86_64.egg/ZODB/Connection.py",
> line 628, in _store_objects
> raise Unsupported(
> Unsupported: Storing Blobs in <ZODB.DemoStorage.DemoStorage instance at
> 0x27f2a28> is not supported.
>
> Uncommenting the dependency works as expected. Is there
>
> a) a way of disabeling the Blob-storage of collective.contentleadimage
> while unittesting
>
> or
>
> b) a way to conditionally include a dependency via generic setup
>
> or
>
> c) a solution a haven't thought of?
>
> Thanks
> -Tom
>
>
>


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From mikko+plone at redinnovation.com  Thu Aug  4 14:31:22 2011
From: mikko+plone at redinnovation.com (Mikko Ohtamaa)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 07:31:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Product-Developers] Mr. Developer vs. GitHub
Message-ID: <1312468282351-6652959.post@n2.nabble.com>

Hi,

Is it possible to have one URL on GitHub which would allow Mr. Developer to
checkout the project so that

* anonymous users do not need to set up SSH keys, or access to the project,
etc.

* people with commit access would still get commit enabled URL

I don't want to have different buildout.cfg for developers with different
access level to GitHub projects.

Meanwhile what are the best practices to work around this little problem? 

Yours sincerely,
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(but github is almost ok)

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From roel at fourdigits.nl  Thu Aug  4 14:55:39 2011
From: roel at fourdigits.nl (Roel Bruggink)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 16:55:39 +0200
Subject: [Product-Developers] Mr. Developer vs. GitHub
In-Reply-To: <1312468282351-6652959.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <1312468282351-6652959.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <CAO5yuCVYB++FzpTt6LoLzbNFbH+OOVO_mmJMsBgSnmwooVCj0g@mail.gmail.com>

Just use the read-only urls, ie
https://github.com/fschulze/mr.developer.gitor git://
github.com/fschulze/mr.developer.git

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Mikko Ohtamaa <mikko+plone at redinnovation.com
> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Is it possible to have one URL on GitHub which would allow Mr. Developer to
> checkout the project so that
>
> * anonymous users do not need to set up SSH keys, or access to the project,
> etc.
>
> * people with commit access would still get commit enabled URL
>
> I don't want to have different buildout.cfg for developers with different
> access level to GitHub projects.
>
> Meanwhile what are the best practices to work around this little problem?
>
> Yours sincerely,
> Git hater
> (but github is almost ok)
>
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From wichert at wiggy.net  Thu Aug  4 15:22:04 2011
From: wichert at wiggy.net (Wichert Akkerman)
Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 17:22:04 +0200
Subject: [Product-Developers] Mr. Developer vs. GitHub
In-Reply-To: <1312468282351-6652959.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <1312468282351-6652959.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <4E3AB91C.5080606@wiggy.net>

On 08/04/2011 04:31 PM, Mikko Ohtamaa wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is it possible to have one URL on GitHub which would allow Mr. Developer to
> checkout the project so that
>
> * anonymous users do not need to set up SSH keys, or access to the project,
> etc.
>
> * people with commit access would still get commit enabled URL
>
> I don't want to have different buildout.cfg for developers with different
> access level to GitHub projects.
>
> Meanwhile what are the best practices to work around this little problem?

Best suggestion is that you write a patch for mr.developer to solve 
either https://github.com/fschulze/mr.developer/issues/55 or 
https://github.com/fschulze/mr.developer/issues/56

Wichert.


From andrew at elytra.net  Thu Aug  4 17:22:01 2011
From: andrew at elytra.net (Andrew Pasquale)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 13:22:01 -0400
Subject: [Product-Developers] Loading tinymce in an overlay
Message-ID: <CAJ_ZCjhJ5GuMZeS=m498EOo7PnoJVZfXx8vdcz+5mtnp_tdh5Q@mail.gmail.com>

Hi.  I am trying to allow users to add content from overlays and allow
rich text editing using tinymce from the overlay.  This is similar to
the interface used in the new plone.app.cmsui product, which is
terrific, by the way.

I'm using $('.overlay a').prepOverlay({...}) to load the plone url
into an overlay.  This works fine.

I'm initializing the tinymce in the overlay like this:

$(document).bind('loadInsideOverlay', function() {
    $('textarea.mce_editable').each(function() {
        var config = new TinyMCEConfig($(this).attr('id'));
        config.init();
    });
});

When I try to add a "News Item", tinymce inits the way I'd expect.
http://localhost:8080/Plone/createObject?type_name=News+Item

But adding a dexterity content type doesn't work.
http://localhost:8080/Plone/++add++my.product.type

The overlay loads fine without the 'loadInsideOverlay' trigger.  I
haven't had much luck debugging this one.  The proper element seems to
be selected using the jQuery selector.
The chrome js debugger tells me there's an "Uncaught SyntaxError:
Unexpected token )", but nothing else useful.

This might be unrelated, but tinymce in the overlayed "News Item"
loads the first time the overlay is triggered.  Subsequent loads don't
initialize the editor.

Thanks for any thoughts,
Andrew

From hector.velarde at gmail.com  Thu Aug  4 18:56:52 2011
From: hector.velarde at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?H=E9ctor_Velarde?=)
Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 13:56:52 -0500
Subject: [Product-Developers] location field on Dexterity based content
	types
In-Reply-To: <4E386E3C.4090102@gmail.com>
References: <4E386E3C.4090102@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4E3AEB74.1040006@gmail.com>

in Archetypes location is declared in ExtensibleMetadata.py as:

         # Location, also known as Coverage in the DC metadata standard, 
but we
         # keep the term Location here for historical reasons.
         StringField(
             'location',
             # why no accessor? http://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/6424
             searchable=True,
             widget = StringWidget(
                 label = _(u'label_location', default=u'Location'),
                 description=_(u'help_location_dc',
                               default=u'The geographical location 
associated with the item, if applicable.'),
                 ),
         ),

why this was not included in the standard IDublinCore behavior?

best regards

H?ctor Velarde

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From davidglick at groundwire.org  Thu Aug  4 22:02:36 2011
From: davidglick at groundwire.org (David Glick)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 18:02:36 -0400
Subject: [Product-Developers] location field on Dexterity based content
 types
In-Reply-To: <4E3AEB74.1040006@gmail.com>
References: <4E386E3C.4090102@gmail.com> <4E3AEB74.1040006@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4E3B16FC.3040503@groundwire.org>

On 8/4/11 2:56 PM, H?ctor Velarde wrote:
> in Archetypes location is declared in ExtensibleMetadata.py as:
>
>           # Location, also known as Coverage in the DC metadata standard,
> but we
>           # keep the term Location here for historical reasons.
>           StringField(
>               'location',
>               # why no accessor? http://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/6424
>               searchable=True,
>               widget = StringWidget(
>                   label = _(u'label_location', default=u'Location'),
>                   description=_(u'help_location_dc',
>                                 default=u'The geographical location
> associated with the item, if applicable.'),
>                   ),
>           ),
>
> why this was not included in the standard IDublinCore behavior?
>
I honestly can't remember; it was probably an oversight. Do you think 
it's important to add it?

By the way, you might have more success asking Dexterity questions in 
the Dexterity google group: 
http://groups.google.com/group/dexterity-development

David


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From kawagashira at issp.u-tokyo.ac.jp  Fri Aug  5 02:58:01 2011
From: kawagashira at issp.u-tokyo.ac.jp (kawagashira)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 19:58:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Product-Developers] Ploneboard 2.2 has a problem with LinguaPlone
	4.0.4
Message-ID: <1312513081619-6655123.post@n2.nabble.com>

Hello, Developers,

I am a user of Plone 4.0.7. I have a problem about Ploneboard 2.2.
A messageboard and a forum objects were added to my plone site.
But a conversation object was not created.
After installing LinguaPlone 4.0.4, my plone site handles 2 languages of
Japanese ja and English en. I think that Ploneboard 2.2 may not set the
appropriate paths such as http://host/ja/~ or http://host/en/~.
I need your help. Will you help me? Thanks in advance,

Nobuyuki 

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From wichert at wiggy.net  Fri Aug  5 07:22:00 2011
From: wichert at wiggy.net (Wichert Akkerman)
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 09:22:00 +0200
Subject: [Product-Developers] location field on Dexterity based content
 types
In-Reply-To: <4E3B16FC.3040503@groundwire.org>
References: <4E386E3C.4090102@gmail.com> <4E3AEB74.1040006@gmail.com>
 <4E3B16FC.3040503@groundwire.org>
Message-ID: <4E3B9A18.4000801@wiggy.net>

On 08/05/2011 12:02 AM, David Glick wrote:
> On 8/4/11 2:56 PM, H?ctor Velarde wrote:
>> in Archetypes location is declared in ExtensibleMetadata.py as:
>>
>>           # Location, also known as Coverage in the DC metadata 
>> standard,
>> but we
>>           # keep the term Location here for historical reasons.
>>           StringField(
>>               'location',
>>               # why no accessor? http://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/6424
>>               searchable=True,
>>               widget = StringWidget(
>>                   label = _(u'label_location', default=u'Location'),
>>                   description=_(u'help_location_dc',
>>                                 default=u'The geographical location
>> associated with the item, if applicable.'),
>>                   ),
>>           ),
>>
>> why this was not included in the standard IDublinCore behavior?
>>
> I honestly can't remember; it was probably an oversight. Do you think 
> it's important to add it?

My guess would be because almost nobody uses the field. Personally I'ld 
rather have it removed (and especially its catalog index).

Wichert.


From heywyn at gmail.com  Fri Aug  5 07:34:39 2011
From: heywyn at gmail.com (w.p.w)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 10:34:39 +0300
Subject: [Product-Developers] location field on Dexterity based content
	types
In-Reply-To: <4E3B9A18.4000801@wiggy.net>
References: <4E386E3C.4090102@gmail.com> <4E3AEB74.1040006@gmail.com>
 <4E3B16FC.3040503@groundwire.org> <4E3B9A18.4000801@wiggy.net>
Message-ID: <CABQegi4jNOu-_QWbYRvvTrjistTJKn3qzCoz9uYKm8MwR38H3w@mail.gmail.com>

The default location field is useful in some ways and can be called from
other objects but is specific to some usecases (Server location,
geo-location etc) that said more and more nowadays we find that people want
there location to be shown for different sites so including it in the basic
metadata is a good idea for a modern system.

As it is already there would it be a better idea to extend it and hook it
into a mapping system rather then exclude it, it seems a step backwards.

Peace

Wyn

On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Wichert Akkerman <wichert at wiggy.net> wrote:

> On 08/05/2011 12:02 AM, David Glick wrote:
>
>> On 8/4/11 2:56 PM, H?ctor Velarde wrote:
>>
>>> in Archetypes location is declared in ExtensibleMetadata.py as:
>>>
>>>          # Location, also known as Coverage in the DC metadata standard,
>>> but we
>>>          # keep the term Location here for historical reasons.
>>>          StringField(
>>>              'location',
>>>              # why no accessor? http://dev.plone.org/plone/**ticket/6424<http://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/6424>
>>>              searchable=True,
>>>              widget = StringWidget(
>>>                  label = _(u'label_location', default=u'Location'),
>>>                  description=_(u'help_location_**dc',
>>>                                default=u'The geographical location
>>> associated with the item, if applicable.'),
>>>                  ),
>>>          ),
>>>
>>> why this was not included in the standard IDublinCore behavior?
>>>
>>>  I honestly can't remember; it was probably an oversight. Do you think
>> it's important to add it?
>>
>
> My guess would be because almost nobody uses the field. Personally I'ld
> rather have it removed (and especially its catalog index).
>
> Wichert.
>
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From wichert at wiggy.net  Fri Aug  5 07:37:24 2011
From: wichert at wiggy.net (Wichert Akkerman)
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 09:37:24 +0200
Subject: [Product-Developers] location field on Dexterity based content
 types
In-Reply-To: <CABQegi4jNOu-_QWbYRvvTrjistTJKn3qzCoz9uYKm8MwR38H3w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4E386E3C.4090102@gmail.com>	<4E3AEB74.1040006@gmail.com>	<4E3B16FC.3040503@groundwire.org>	<4E3B9A18.4000801@wiggy.net>
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On 08/05/2011 09:34 AM, w.p.w wrote:
> The default location field is useful in some ways and can be called 
> from other objects but is specific to some usecases (Server location, 
> geo-location etc) that said more and more nowadays we find that people 
> want there location to be shown for different sites so including it in 
> the basic metadata is a good idea for a modern system.

A big problem is that the location field has no defined syntax. People 
use it to store coordinates, names of places, descriptions of places, 
etc. That makes it impossible for anything generic to use this field, 
making it in my opinion fit not for a standard (cataloged even) field.

Wichert.


From heywyn at gmail.com  Fri Aug  5 07:50:23 2011
From: heywyn at gmail.com (w.p.w)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 10:50:23 +0300
Subject: [Product-Developers] location field on Dexterity based content
	types
In-Reply-To: <4E3B9DB4.3030007@wiggy.net>
References: <4E386E3C.4090102@gmail.com> <4E3AEB74.1040006@gmail.com>
 <4E3B16FC.3040503@groundwire.org> <4E3B9A18.4000801@wiggy.net>
 <CABQegi4jNOu-_QWbYRvvTrjistTJKn3qzCoz9uYKm8MwR38H3w@mail.gmail.com>
 <4E3B9DB4.3030007@wiggy.net>
Message-ID: <CABQegi7Ra6B4nE7xe5GLnMeDjffv0eCz=7_B-bAMxXrgsVDv+Q@mail.gmail.com>

"People use it to store coordinates, names of places, descriptions of
places, etc."  would this not tend to suggest that its usage needs better
defining and expanding or complementing its usage rather then removing it as
not fit ?

Wyn

On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Wichert Akkerman <wichert at wiggy.net> wrote:

> On 08/05/2011 09:34 AM, w.p.w wrote:
>
>> The default location field is useful in some ways and can be called from
>> other objects but is specific to some usecases (Server location,
>> geo-location etc) that said more and more nowadays we find that people want
>> there location to be shown for different sites so including it in the basic
>> metadata is a good idea for a modern system.
>>
>
> A big problem is that the location field has no defined syntax. People use
> it to store coordinates, names of places, descriptions of places, etc. That
> makes it impossible for anything generic to use this field, making it in my
> opinion fit not for a standard (cataloged even) field.
>
> Wichert.
>
>
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From christian.ledermann at gmail.com  Fri Aug  5 07:51:04 2011
From: christian.ledermann at gmail.com (Christian Ledermann)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 10:51:04 +0300
Subject: [Product-Developers] location field on Dexterity based content
	types
In-Reply-To: <4E3B9DB4.3030007@wiggy.net>
References: <4E386E3C.4090102@gmail.com> <4E3AEB74.1040006@gmail.com>
 <4E3B16FC.3040503@groundwire.org> <4E3B9A18.4000801@wiggy.net>
 <CABQegi4jNOu-_QWbYRvvTrjistTJKn3qzCoz9uYKm8MwR38H3w@mail.gmail.com>
 <4E3B9DB4.3030007@wiggy.net>
Message-ID: <CABCjzWqWJa4CKMGgipG23PaLZrhrbsRa7VcMFFyQUkQjbSAh-Q@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Wichert Akkerman <wichert at wiggy.net> wrote:
> On 08/05/2011 09:34 AM, w.p.w wrote:
>>
>> The default location field is useful in some ways and can be called from
>> other objects but is specific to some usecases (Server location,
>> geo-location etc) that said more and more nowadays we find that people want
>> there location to be shown for different sites so including it in the basic
>> metadata is a good idea for a modern system.

 +1
>
> A big problem is that the location field has no defined syntax. People use
> it to store coordinates, names of places, descriptions of places, etc. That

with geospatial add on products like collective.geo the usage as a
descriptive field
becomes more apparent, so it is used to store a place name like
"Nairobi, Kenya".
(collective.geo uses this field to do geocoding i.e looking up the coordinates
for this location)
The coordinates itself are then stored as geospatial annotations, not in
the location field.

> makes it impossible for anything generic to use this field, making it in my
> opinion fit not for a standard (cataloged even) field.

dc.coverage is defined as geographical or temporal coverage - this is vague

I agree that cataloging this field does not make a lot of sense. there are
too few use cases (imho) for this



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From wichert at wiggy.net  Fri Aug  5 07:53:54 2011
From: wichert at wiggy.net (Wichert Akkerman)
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 09:53:54 +0200
Subject: [Product-Developers] location field on Dexterity based content
 types
In-Reply-To: <CABQegi7Ra6B4nE7xe5GLnMeDjffv0eCz=7_B-bAMxXrgsVDv+Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4E386E3C.4090102@gmail.com>	<4E3AEB74.1040006@gmail.com>	<4E3B16FC.3040503@groundwire.org>	<4E3B9A18.4000801@wiggy.net>	<CABQegi4jNOu-_QWbYRvvTrjistTJKn3qzCoz9uYKm8MwR38H3w@mail.gmail.com>	<4E3B9DB4.3030007@wiggy.net>
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On 08/05/2011 09:50 AM, w.p.w wrote:
> "People use it to store coordinates, names of places, descriptions of 
> places, etc."  would this not tend to suggest that its usage needs 
> better defining and expanding or complementing its usage rather then 
> removing it as not fit ?

There are valid reasons for all ways of using it, and trying to 
standardise on a single way to use the field is not going to work. So 
you either have a field that does not have a well-defined meaning, or 
you need multiple location fields for all different syntax types. My 
suggestions is to just keep Plone core simple and leave this to specific 
sites or add-on products that know how they need to use a location 
field. That also opens up the ability for people to do things like use a 
geo-index for the location field in sites, making it really useful.

Wichert.


From heywyn at gmail.com  Fri Aug  5 07:56:59 2011
From: heywyn at gmail.com (w.p.w)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 10:56:59 +0300
Subject: [Product-Developers] location field on Dexterity based content
	types
In-Reply-To: <4E3BA192.3060908@wiggy.net>
References: <4E386E3C.4090102@gmail.com> <4E3AEB74.1040006@gmail.com>
 <4E3B16FC.3040503@groundwire.org> <4E3B9A18.4000801@wiggy.net>
 <CABQegi4jNOu-_QWbYRvvTrjistTJKn3qzCoz9uYKm8MwR38H3w@mail.gmail.com>
 <4E3B9DB4.3030007@wiggy.net>
 <CABQegi7Ra6B4nE7xe5GLnMeDjffv0eCz=7_B-bAMxXrgsVDv+Q@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CABQegi4JKWj+=7r5oeSayawpJf+EzRqrgS_=0MceEnx=YCdT1g@mail.gmail.com>

+1 for keeping the field but removing the catalog and leaving it up to
individual products to make use of the field and store the result.

My main concern is the suggestion is / was to remove the field, good idea to
move it inline with the other metadata though.

Peace

Wyn

On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Wichert Akkerman <wichert at wiggy.net> wrote:

> On 08/05/2011 09:50 AM, w.p.w wrote:
>
>> "People use it to store coordinates, names of places, descriptions of
>> places, etc."  would this not tend to suggest that its usage needs better
>> defining and expanding or complementing its usage rather then removing it as
>> not fit ?
>>
>
> There are valid reasons for all ways of using it, and trying to standardise
> on a single way to use the field is not going to work. So you either have a
> field that does not have a well-defined meaning, or you need multiple
> location fields for all different syntax types. My suggestions is to just
> keep Plone core simple and leave this to specific sites or add-on products
> that know how they need to use a location field. That also opens up the
> ability for people to do things like use a geo-index for the location field
> in sites, making it really useful.
>
> Wichert.
>
>
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From eperez at yaco.es  Fri Aug  5 08:06:21 2011
From: eperez at yaco.es (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Enrique_P=E9rez_Arnaud?=)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 10:06:21 +0200
Subject: [Product-Developers] Mr. Developer vs. GitHub
In-Reply-To: <1312468282351-6652959.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <1312468282351-6652959.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <CAPn0XB7gFme1a0QOQ1EdBLGg7Psj7fOfSEG-H_ZzsZsmNgtQng@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I don't find it too bad to give mr.developer a read only 'origin'
remote, and then push to the rw url instead of to the origin. You can
of course add a new remote if you don't want to type the rw url every
time. You then have to pull from origin to let git know that you are
in sync with it:

$ git remote add rw-origin git at github.com:xxx/yyy.git
$ git push rw-origin master
$ git pull origin master

2011/8/4 Mikko Ohtamaa <mikko+plone at redinnovation.com>:
> Hi,
>
> Is it possible to have one URL on GitHub which would allow Mr. Developer to
> checkout the project so that
>
> * anonymous users do not need to set up SSH keys, or access to the project,
> etc.
>
> * people with commit access would still get commit enabled URL
>
> I don't want to have different buildout.cfg for developers with different
> access level to GitHub projects.
>
> Meanwhile what are the best practices to work around this little problem?
>
> Yours sincerely,
> Git hater
> (but github is almost ok)
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From hector.velarde at gmail.com  Fri Aug  5 18:54:19 2011
From: hector.velarde at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?H=E9ctor_Velarde?=)
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 13:54:19 -0500
Subject: [Product-Developers] location field on Dexterity based content
 types
In-Reply-To: <CABQegi4JKWj+=7r5oeSayawpJf+EzRqrgS_=0MceEnx=YCdT1g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4E386E3C.4090102@gmail.com> <4E3AEB74.1040006@gmail.com>
 <4E3B16FC.3040503@groundwire.org> <4E3B9A18.4000801@wiggy.net>
 <CABQegi4jNOu-_QWbYRvvTrjistTJKn3qzCoz9uYKm8MwR38H3w@mail.gmail.com>
 <4E3B9DB4.3030007@wiggy.net>
 <CABQegi7Ra6B4nE7xe5GLnMeDjffv0eCz=7_B-bAMxXrgsVDv+Q@mail.gmail.com>
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El 05/08/11 02:56, w.p.w escribi?:
> +1 for keeping the field but removing the catalog and leaving it up to
> individual products to make use of the field and store the result.

+1

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From lists at zopyx.com  Tue Aug  9 06:37:49 2011
From: lists at zopyx.com (Andreas Jung)
Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2011 08:37:49 +0200
Subject: [Product-Developers] IObjectInitializedEvent subscriber not
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Plone 4.X.

I have an event subscriber registered for IObjectInitializedEvent.
The subscriber is executed while creating a new object through the web
but not when creating a new object inside a test using invokeFactory().
Is there some test magic I am missing?

Andreas

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From mikko+plone at redinnovation.com  Tue Aug  9 06:44:27 2011
From: mikko+plone at redinnovation.com (Mikko Ohtamaa)
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 09:44:27 +0300
Subject: [Product-Developers] IObjectInitializedEvent subscriber not
 triggered inside tests
In-Reply-To: <4E40D5BD.5060605@zopyx.com>
References: <4E40D5BD.5060605@zopyx.com>
Message-ID: <CAK8RCUvn3UtApqz9uQb=1L5jEueLcEDWB5YKvQti2_-SGdgA6Q@mail.gmail.com>

It is probably called by processForm(), at_post_create() or whatever
happens to be your magical AT function today what you should call
after invokeFactory().

On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 9:37 AM, Andreas Jung <lists at zopyx.com> wrote:
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> but not when creating a new object inside a test using invokeFactory().
> Is there some test magic I am missing?
>
> Andreas
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From heywyn at gmail.com  Tue Aug  9 19:20:41 2011
From: heywyn at gmail.com (w.p.w)
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 22:20:41 +0300
Subject: [Product-Developers] svn going read only
Message-ID: <CABQegi652RScmx853QGQdq5fuKaY_p8+qssvf+paj--RfGZShQ@mail.gmail.com>

Plone and Collective SVN going read only from 1300 GMT Wednesday 10th ALL
DAY - Trac either read only or Offline ALL DAY - Happy Ploneing !

Best regards

Wyn Williams on behalf of the Plone AI-Team
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From v.errath at bcom.at  Wed Aug 10 12:33:05 2011
From: v.errath at bcom.at (vii)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 05:33:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Product-Developers] Change "default view" and get it active
	quickly?
Message-ID: <1312979585969-6672176.post@n2.nabble.com>

Dear list

At first a shirt introduction to myself: My name is viktor, I'm new to this
list but I'm using and developing with/for Plone for about 5 years now.
Until now I created the needed Content Types "by hand". I had a
"Dummy-Product" and changed/added the things I needed.

Now I wanted to create my first Content-Type "the right way" (and to get a
product that also will work on Plone4) and red the book "Plone 3 Products
development Cookbook" and many tutorials online. I got most of the things I
needed working but I got a vew questions left.

I created a folderish CT "NewBornGallery" (with paster). For the content of
this folder I created a "normal" CT "NewBornBaby" (also with paster). I
changed the baseCT of the NewBornBaby to ATImage. I added the fields and
wigdets I needed and eventhing is fine. Now I want to create my own views
and used paster to create these. After a lot of "try and error" I noticed
that I have to fill in the choosen view in the
"profiles/default/types/NewBornGallery.xml" in the property "default_view".
Did I missed this hint in all the books and tutorials? Or should paster
create this entry??

Is there an easier way to get this settings active than to de-install and
install the product? (plone.reload does not work right??)

regards
viktor

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From eperez at yaco.es  Wed Aug 10 13:14:57 2011
From: eperez at yaco.es (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Enrique_P=E9rez_Arnaud?=)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 15:14:57 +0200
Subject: [Product-Developers] Change "default view" and get it active
	quickly?
In-Reply-To: <1312979585969-6672176.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <1312979585969-6672176.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <CAPn0XB6=mR6-vAMy641iDphH4xUUkzNaPcDoFhJgz6YfjW0eTw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

2011/8/10 vii <v.errath at bcom.at>:

>
> I created a folderish CT "NewBornGallery" (with paster). For the content of
> this folder I created a "normal" CT "NewBornBaby" (also with paster). I
> changed the baseCT of the NewBornBaby to ATImage. I added the fields and
> wigdets I needed and eventhing is fine. Now I want to create my own views
> and used paster to create these. After a lot of "try and error" I noticed
> that I have to fill in the choosen view in the
> "profiles/default/types/NewBornGallery.xml" in the property "default_view".

If you don't touch NewBornGallery.xml, your default_view will be
base_view (Products/Archetypes/skins/archetypes/base_view.pt). Take a
look at that template, if you name your intended default_view
"newbornbaby_view", base_view will be able to pick it up (provided you
put your markup in a "body" macro).

> Did I missed this hint in all the books and tutorials? Or should paster
> create this entry??

paster cannot know.

>
> Is there an easier way to get this settings active than to de-install and
> install the product? (plone.reload does not work right??)

You can just run the "Types Tool" import step in the import tab in the
portal_setup tool (zmi) (don't forget to select your extension profile
first).

You can also directly edit the fti for your type in the portal_types
tool (again, zmi). If you do this, do not forget to also record the
changes in your generic setup profile (this would be
profiles/default/types/NewBornGallery.xml).

>
> regards
> viktor
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From mike at netsight.co.uk  Wed Aug 10 14:00:41 2011
From: mike at netsight.co.uk (Mike Rhodes)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 15:00:41 +0100
Subject: [Product-Developers] IObjectInitializedEvent subscriber not
 triggered inside tests
In-Reply-To: <4E40D5BD.5060605@zopyx.com>
References: <4E40D5BD.5060605@zopyx.com>
Message-ID: <4E428F09.1040908@netsight.co.uk>

We ended up just calling it manually in our tests:

from zope.event import notify
from Products.Archetypes.event import ObjectInitializedEvent

folder.invokeFactory('Page', 'new_page')
ob = folder['new_page']
notify(ObjectInitializedEvent(ob))

Would love to hear if there's a better way, however.

Mike.

On 09/08/2011 07:37, Andreas Jung wrote:
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> Is there some test magic I am missing?
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> Andreas
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From lists at zopyx.com  Wed Aug 10 14:08:02 2011
From: lists at zopyx.com (Andreas Jung)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 16:08:02 +0200
Subject: [Product-Developers] IObjectInitializedEvent subscriber not
 triggered inside tests
In-Reply-To: <4E428F09.1040908@netsight.co.uk>
References: <4E40D5BD.5060605@zopyx.com> <4E428F09.1040908@netsight.co.uk>
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Mike Rhodes wrote:
> We ended up just calling it manually in our tests:
> 
> from zope.event import notify from Products.Archetypes.event import
> ObjectInitializedEvent
> 
> folder.invokeFactory('Page', 'new_page') ob = folder['new_page'] 
> notify(ObjectInitializedEvent(ob))
> 

I am now calling processForm() on the object
which triggers the event as well. Your suggestion is more explicit
and instead of triggering the event under the hood through processForm().

- -aj
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From heywyn at gmail.com  Wed Aug 10 14:09:42 2011
From: heywyn at gmail.com (w.p.w)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 17:09:42 +0300
Subject: [Product-Developers] reminder
Message-ID: <CABQegi51DAx7JqcmZ=LiYUSK2vH8uUWOLOQWOq7K02Vu9W722Q@mail.gmail.com>

SVN is offline for the next few hours

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From nnieto at noenieto.com  Wed Aug 10 16:50:14 2011
From: nnieto at noenieto.com (Noe Nieto)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 11:50:14 -0500
Subject: [Product-Developers] Whats the role/function of borg.localrole
	package in Plone 4.1?
Message-ID: <CAKYVvaEXG+MdfuWNkmhkycD-K0JOxy+7v30K6S6rb-LJhEbfDw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi, I'm developing some functionality that requires the use of local roles.

I see that borg.localrole is included with the Plone 4.1 distribution. What
function does it perform on a vainilla plone?


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From heywyn at gmail.com  Wed Aug 10 21:21:22 2011
From: heywyn at gmail.com (w.p.w)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 00:21:22 +0300
Subject: [Product-Developers] SVN / Trac
Message-ID: <CABQegi7vicHtAOVf1SfDkzLMszAU9LGnk76ZAzt1DEBjWTESmw@mail.gmail.com>

Due to the exceptionally long time it appears that the collective will take
to load the svn dumps.
It looks like the load time will be around 35 hours, this was my mistake (I
should of planned better on that) we will do a rev dump form the last rev so
we do not have to load the whole collective (hundreds of thousands of revs)
again.

I apologize for the inconvenience.

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From gilles.lenfant at alterway.fr  Wed Aug 10 21:35:49 2011
From: gilles.lenfant at alterway.fr (Gilles Lenfant)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 23:35:49 +0200
Subject: [Product-Developers] Whats the role/function of borg.localrole
	package in Plone 4.1?
In-Reply-To: <CAKYVvaEXG+MdfuWNkmhkycD-K0JOxy+7v30K6S6rb-LJhEbfDw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKYVvaEXG+MdfuWNkmhkycD-K0JOxy+7v30K6S6rb-LJhEbfDw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <447CE2F6-DEEF-45C1-B162-C64B21D01987@alterway.fr>

Le 10 ao?t 2011 ? 18:50, Noe Nieto a ?crit :

> Hi, I'm developing some functionality that requires the use of local roles.
> 
> I see that borg.localrole is included with the Plone 4.1 distribution. What function does it perform on a vainilla plone?

Nothing (in a vanilla Plone) ;)

More seriously, borg.localrole grants additional roles if you provide an adapter for your contents that implement borg.localrole.interfaces.ILocalroleProvider.

This means that you need to put some code in your Plone site or add-on to have the effect of this plugin.

Read the doctests in its various modules to see how this works. Have a look at the code in https://svn.plone.org/svn/collective/collective.groupspace.roles/ to see how it's used in real life.

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From m.van.rees at zestsoftware.nl  Wed Aug 10 23:19:45 2011
From: m.van.rees at zestsoftware.nl (Maurits van Rees)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 01:19:45 +0200
Subject: [Product-Developers] IObjectInitializedEvent subscriber not
	triggered inside tests
In-Reply-To: <CAK8RCUvn3UtApqz9uQb=1L5jEueLcEDWB5YKvQti2_-SGdgA6Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4E40D5BD.5060605@zopyx.com>
 <CAK8RCUvn3UtApqz9uQb=1L5jEueLcEDWB5YKvQti2_-SGdgA6Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <j1v3mh$s8u$1@dough.gmane.org>

Op 09-08-11 08:44, Mikko Ohtamaa schreef:
> It is probably called by processForm(), at_post_create() or whatever
> happens to be your magical AT function today what you should call
> after invokeFactory().

my_new_object.processForm() should do the trick indeed.

Or fire the event yourself:

from zope.event import notify
from Products.Archetypes.event import ObjectInitializedEvent
notify(ObjectEditedEvent(my_new_object))



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From nnieto at noenieto.com  Thu Aug 11 02:47:59 2011
From: nnieto at noenieto.com (Noe Nieto)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 21:47:59 -0500
Subject: [Product-Developers] Whats the role/function of borg.localrole
 package in Plone 4.1?
In-Reply-To: <447CE2F6-DEEF-45C1-B162-C64B21D01987@alterway.fr>
References: <CAKYVvaEXG+MdfuWNkmhkycD-K0JOxy+7v30K6S6rb-LJhEbfDw@mail.gmail.com>
 <447CE2F6-DEEF-45C1-B162-C64B21D01987@alterway.fr>
Message-ID: <CAKYVvaF8bhBBm5rwxVdwVhSvgPBnd1E+EQy1L1bohC8Je4OZ5g@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for the input. And for the links also :)


2011/8/10 Gilles Lenfant <gilles.lenfant at alterway.fr>

> Le 10 ao?t 2011 ? 18:50, Noe Nieto a ?crit :
>
> > Hi, I'm developing some functionality that requires the use of local
> roles.
> >
> > I see that borg.localrole is included with the Plone 4.1 distribution.
> What function does it perform on a vainilla plone?
>
> Nothing (in a vanilla Plone) ;)
>
> More seriously, borg.localrole grants additional roles if you provide an
> adapter for your contents that implement
> borg.localrole.interfaces.ILocalroleProvider.
>
> This means that you need to put some code in your Plone site or add-on to
> have the effect of this plugin.
>
> Read the doctests in its various modules to see how this works. Have a look
> at the code in
> https://svn.plone.org/svn/collective/collective.groupspace.roles/ to see
> how it's used in real life.
>
> --
> Gilles Lenfant
>
> >
> >
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> > Noe Nieto
> > NNieto Consulting Services
> > M: nnieto at noenieto.com
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From v.errath at bcom.at  Thu Aug 11 12:48:40 2011
From: v.errath at bcom.at (vii)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 05:48:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Product-Developers] Register an CSS-File??
Message-ID: <1313066920822-6676252.post@n2.nabble.com>

Hello List

Sorry for bordering you again but I've been reading and trying and testing
for about 8 hours now and it seems that I'm to stupid to finish this rather
simple task (I beliefe).

I have a content type and want to give it its own css-File. I created the
css-File in the browser-folder "browser/mycontenttype_styles.css" and an
xml-file  "profiles/default/cssregistry.xml" with this content:

<?xml version="1.0"?>

  <stylesheet
    id="mycontenttye_styles.css" title=""
    media="all" rel="stylesheet" rendering="import"
    cacheable="True" compression="safe" cookable="True"
    enabled="1" expression="" />


But after I de-installed and re-installed the product in my plonesite if I
check the portal_css I always get the error message "(resource not found or
not accessible)" next to the line for this css-file.

Can you please tell me whats wrong?

regards
viktor

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From aclark at aclark.net  Thu Aug 11 13:12:03 2011
From: aclark at aclark.net (Alex Clark)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 09:12:03 -0400
Subject: [Product-Developers] Register an CSS-File??
In-Reply-To: <1313066920822-6676252.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <1313066920822-6676252.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <j20kf7$ktn$1@dough.gmane.org>

Hi,

On 8/11/11 8:48 AM, vii wrote:
> Hello List
>
> Sorry for bordering you again but I've been reading and trying and testing
> for about 8 hours now and it seems that I'm to stupid to finish this rather
> simple task (I beliefe).

You are not too stupid, but if something is taking too long your 
approach may be wrong.

>
> I have a content type and want to give it its own css-File. I created the
> css-File in the browser-folder "browser/mycontenttype_styles.css" and an
> xml-file  "profiles/default/cssregistry.xml" with this content:
>
> <?xml version="1.0"?>
>
>    <stylesheet
>      id="mycontenttye_styles.css" title=""
>      media="all" rel="stylesheet" rendering="import"
>      cacheable="True" compression="safe" cookable="True"
>      enabled="1" expression="" />
>
>
> But after I de-installed and re-installed the product in my plonesite if I
> check the portal_css I always get the error message "(resource not found or
> not accessible)" next to the line for this css-file.
>
> Can you please tell me whats wrong?


I don't understand:

* How is this stylesheet (assuming you are able to get it registered 
correctly) going to apply to *only* your content type?

Generally we don't apply style sheets to a particular content type, or 
at least I'm not familiar with this approach. Another approach I'm sure 
would work:

* In the "default view template" of your content type, inline the styles 
there. And/or use some custom CSS classes/ids that you can style from 
any stylesheet e.g. ploneCustom.css


Alex




>
> regards
> viktor
>
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From r.ritz at biologie.hu-berlin.de  Thu Aug 11 13:34:16 2011
From: r.ritz at biologie.hu-berlin.de (Raphael Ritz)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 15:34:16 +0200
Subject: [Product-Developers] Register an CSS-File??
In-Reply-To: <1313066920822-6676252.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <1313066920822-6676252.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <j20loo$t00$1@dough.gmane.org>

On 8/11/11 2:48 PM, vii wrote:
> Hello List
>
> Sorry for bordering you again but I've been reading and trying and testing
> for about 8 hours now and it seems that I'm to stupid to finish this rather
> simple task (I beliefe).
>
> I have a content type and want to give it its own css-File. I created the
> css-File in the browser-folder "browser/mycontenttype_styles.css" and an
> xml-file  "profiles/default/cssregistry.xml" with this content:
>
> <?xml version="1.0"?>
>
>    <stylesheet
>      id="mycontenttye_styles.css" title=""
>      media="all" rel="stylesheet" rendering="import"
>      cacheable="True" compression="safe" cookable="True"
>      enabled="1" expression="" />
>
>
> But after I de-installed and re-installed the product in my plonesite if I
> check the portal_css I always get the error message "(resource not found or
> not accessible)" next to the line for this css-file.
>

While the XML snippet above adds the respective entry to the registry
it does NOT make that file available to Zope/Plone per se - which is
why you get the "resource not found" error.

In order to make the css file available in the first place you need
to register it as a browser resource as well.

See, e.g.,
http://plone.org/documentation/kb/customization-for-developers/zope-3-browser-resources
for how to do that.

HTH

	Raphael


>
> regards
> viktor
>
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From mikko+plone at redinnovation.com  Thu Aug 11 13:38:06 2011
From: mikko+plone at redinnovation.com (Mikko Ohtamaa)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 16:38:06 +0300
Subject: [Product-Developers] Register an CSS-File??
In-Reply-To: <j20loo$t00$1@dough.gmane.org>
References: <1313066920822-6676252.post@n2.nabble.com>
 <j20loo$t00$1@dough.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <CAK8RCUtpp1F2ODGHavdKKTEvM+UK8iC0Lkivj=tsC5v74XpR8w@mail.gmail.com>

>
> See, e.g.,
> http://plone.org/documentation/kb/customization-for-developers/zope-3-browser-resources
> for how to do that.

This information might be more up to date:

http://collective-docs.readthedocs.org/en/latest/templates_css_and_javascripts/resourcefolders.html

>
> HTH
>
> ? ? ? ?Raphael
>
>
>>
>> regards
>> viktor
>>
>> --
>> View this message in context:
>> http://plone.293351.n2.nabble.com/Register-an-CSS-File-tp6676252p6676252.html
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>
>
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From v.errath at bcom.at  Thu Aug 11 14:41:19 2011
From: v.errath at bcom.at (vii)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 07:41:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Product-Developers] Register an CSS-File??
In-Reply-To: <j20kf7$ktn$1@dough.gmane.org>
References: <1313066920822-6676252.post@n2.nabble.com>
 <j20kf7$ktn$1@dough.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <1313073679815-6676637.post@n2.nabble.com>

Hello Alex

aclark wrote:
> 
> ....
> Generally we don't apply style sheets to a particular content type, or 
> at least I'm not familiar with this approach. Another approach I'm sure 
> would work:
> 
> * In the "default view template" of your content type, inline the styles 
> there. And/or use some custom CSS classes/ids that you can style from 
> any stylesheet e.g. ploneCustom.css
> 

Thank you for your answer. I understand your approach but it takes me to my
next question: How can I include this css-File in my template? I think I
have to use the style_slot but what is the path to my css-File that is in
the browser directory?

  <metal:styleslot fill-slot="style_slot">
      
  </metal:styleslot>

Thank's for your help
regard 
viktor


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From v.errath at bcom.at  Thu Aug 11 14:56:31 2011
From: v.errath at bcom.at (vii)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 07:56:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Product-Developers] Register an CSS-File??
In-Reply-To: <CAK8RCUtpp1F2ODGHavdKKTEvM+UK8iC0Lkivj=tsC5v74XpR8w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1313066920822-6676252.post@n2.nabble.com>
 <j20loo$t00$1@dough.gmane.org>
 <CAK8RCUtpp1F2ODGHavdKKTEvM+UK8iC0Lkivj=tsC5v74XpR8w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1313074591233-6676691.post@n2.nabble.com>

Hello Miko

I managed it to now register the folder "browser/stylesheets" and get a
css-file in this folder registered in portal_css. And this file now works.
Just for my understanding:

- Is it possible to register (and if --> how??) a css-file
"browser/styles.css" without using a subfolder?

Although I'm using the development-mode running the instance in
foreground-mode and having activated the "debug-mode" for portal_css I have
to press "Strg"+"F5" to see changes in the registered CSS-Files? Is this
correct or do I have some configuration-errors?

And my last question: What is the difference, or which version is "better":

The approach from Alex (if I understood it right): using small css-Files
that only belong to certain CT or views?
Or the portal_css way. Letting plone combine, compress and deliver all the
existing css-files?

Many thanks in advance

regards
Viktor

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From v.errath at bcom.at  Thu Aug 11 15:49:58 2011
From: v.errath at bcom.at (vii)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 08:49:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Product-Developers] Register an CSS-File??
In-Reply-To: <1313074591233-6676691.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <1313066920822-6676252.post@n2.nabble.com>
 <j20loo$t00$1@dough.gmane.org>
 <CAK8RCUtpp1F2ODGHavdKKTEvM+UK8iC0Lkivj=tsC5v74XpR8w@mail.gmail.com>
 <1313074591233-6676691.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <1313077798532-6676881.post@n2.nabble.com>

I can answer one question by myself ;-)

<browser:resourceDirectory
      name="macontenttype.css"
      directory=""
      />

With this in the "browser/configure.zcml" I can register a css-file direct
in the browser-folder. 
And now it is not neccessary to press "Strg"+"F5". 

regards
viktor

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From hector.velarde at gmail.com  Thu Aug 11 17:22:39 2011
From: hector.velarde at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?H=E9ctor_Velarde?=)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 14:22:39 -0300
Subject: [Product-Developers] Register an CSS-File??
In-Reply-To: <1313073679815-6676637.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <1313066920822-6676252.post@n2.nabble.com>
 <j20kf7$ktn$1@dough.gmane.org> <1313073679815-6676637.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <4E440FDF.7040306@gmail.com>

El 11/08/11 11:41, vii escribi?:
> Thank you for your answer. I understand your approach but it takes me to my
> next question: How can I include this css-File in my template? I think I
> have to use the style_slot but what is the path to my css-File that is in
> the browser directory?
>
>    <metal:styleslot fill-slot="style_slot">
>
>    </metal:styleslot>

you can use something like this:

<head tal:define="portal_state context/@@plone_portal_state;
                   portal_url portal_state/portal_url;">

   <metal:styleslot fill-slot="style_slot">
     <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" media="screen" href=""
           tal:attributes="href 
string:${portal_url}/++resource++my.package/my_style.css" />
   </metal:styleslot>

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From v.errath at bcom.at  Fri Aug 12 08:09:09 2011
From: v.errath at bcom.at (vii)
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 01:09:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Product-Developers] Register an CSS-File??
In-Reply-To: <4E440FDF.7040306@gmail.com>
References: <1313066920822-6676252.post@n2.nabble.com>
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Thank you all for your tipps. I've again learned some things about plone. I
wish you all a nice weekend ;-)

regards
viktor

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From m.van.rees at zestsoftware.nl  Fri Aug 12 12:41:12 2011
From: m.van.rees at zestsoftware.nl (Maurits van Rees)
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 14:41:12 +0200
Subject: [Product-Developers] IObjectInitializedEvent subscriber not
	triggered inside tests
In-Reply-To: <j1v3mh$s8u$1@dough.gmane.org>
References: <4E40D5BD.5060605@zopyx.com>
 <CAK8RCUvn3UtApqz9uQb=1L5jEueLcEDWB5YKvQti2_-SGdgA6Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <j1v3mh$s8u$1@dough.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <j23718$rir$1@dough.gmane.org>

Op 11-08-11 01:19, Maurits van Rees schreef:
> Op 09-08-11 08:44, Mikko Ohtamaa schreef:
>> It is probably called by processForm(), at_post_create() or whatever
>> happens to be your magical AT function today what you should call
>> after invokeFactory().
>
> my_new_object.processForm() should do the trick indeed.
>
> Or fire the event yourself:
>
> from zope.event import notify
> from Products.Archetypes.event import ObjectInitializedEvent
> notify(ObjectEditedEvent(my_new_object))

Oh, that last one should have been ObjectInitializedEvent as well of course.


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From lists at zopyx.com  Fri Aug 12 16:07:51 2011
From: lists at zopyx.com (Andreas Jung)
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 18:07:51 +0200
Subject: [Product-Developers] ComponentLookupErrors with various add-ons
	unter Plone 4.1
Message-ID: <4E454FD7.6060602@zopyx.com>

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I encountered the following error with multiple add-ons
under Plone 4.1 (working nicely with Plone 4.0).

Any idea?

- -aj

/__init__.py", line 86, in prepare
   self.startZope()
 File
"/home/ajung/.buildout/eggs/Zope2-2.13.8-py2.6.egg/Zope2/Startup/__init__.py",
line 259, in startZope
   Zope2.startup()
 File
"/home/ajung/.buildout/eggs/Zope2-2.13.8-py2.6.egg/Zope2/__init__.py",
line 47, in startup
   _startup()
 File
"/home/ajung/.buildout/eggs/Zope2-2.13.8-py2.6.egg/Zope2/App/startup.py", line
118, in startup
   load_zcml()
 File
"/home/ajung/.buildout/eggs/Zope2-2.13.8-py2.6.egg/Zope2/App/startup.py", line
52, in load_zcml
   load_site()
 File
"/home/ajung/.buildout/eggs/Zope2-2.13.8-py2.6.egg/Zope2/App/zcml.py",
line 46, in load_site
   _context = xmlconfig.file(site_zcml)
 File
"/home/ajung/.buildout/eggs/zope.configuration-3.7.4-py2.6.egg/zope/configuration/xmlconfig.py",
line 651, in file
   context.execute_actions()
 File
"/home/ajung/.buildout/eggs/zope.configuration-3.7.4-py2.6.egg/zope/configuration/config.py",
line 626, in execute_actions
   callable(*args, **kw)
 File
"/home/ajung/.buildout/eggs/Zope2-2.13.8-py2.6.egg/OFS/metaconfigure.py", line
120, in _registerClass
   permission_obj = getUtility(IPermission, permission)
 File
"/home/ajung/.buildout/eggs/zope.component-3.9.5-py2.6.egg/zope/component/_api.py",
line 169, in getUtility
   raise ComponentLookupError(interface, name)
zope.configuration.config.ConfigurationExecutionError: <class
'zope.component.interfaces.ComponentLookupError'>: (<InterfaceClass
zope.security.interfaces.IPermission>, 'cmf.ManagePortal')
 in:
 File
"/home/ajung/.buildout/eggs/alm.solrindex-1.1.1-py2.6.egg/alm/solrindex/configure.zcml",
line 47.0-53.6
 <five:registerClass
     class=".index.SolrIndex"
     meta_type="SolrIndex"
     addview="addSolrIndex.html"
     permission="cmf.ManagePortal"
     global="False"
     />
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From r.ritz at biologie.hu-berlin.de  Fri Aug 12 17:50:17 2011
From: r.ritz at biologie.hu-berlin.de (Raphael Ritz)
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 19:50:17 +0200
Subject: [Product-Developers] ComponentLookupErrors with various add-ons
	unter Plone 4.1
In-Reply-To: <4E454FD7.6060602@zopyx.com>
References: <4E454FD7.6060602@zopyx.com>
Message-ID: <j23p4p$m47$1@dough.gmane.org>

On 8/12/11 6:07 PM, Andreas Jung wrote:
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> I encountered the following error with multiple add-ons
> under Plone 4.1 (working nicely with Plone 4.0).

http://plone.org/documentation/manual/upgrade-guide/version/upgrading-plone-4.0-to-4.1/updating-add-on-products-for-plone-4.1/referencemanual-all-pages

see 'updating permissions' in particular.

If you aim for backwards compatibility I'd recommend
to make this conditional on plone41 or skip the
specification of the permissions file in ZCML.
Otherwise stuff will break on Plone 3.x.

Raphael


>
> Any idea?
>
> - -aj
>
> /__init__.py", line 86, in prepare
>     self.startZope()
>   File
> "/home/ajung/.buildout/eggs/Zope2-2.13.8-py2.6.egg/Zope2/Startup/__init__.py",
> line 259, in startZope
>     Zope2.startup()
>   File
> "/home/ajung/.buildout/eggs/Zope2-2.13.8-py2.6.egg/Zope2/__init__.py",
> line 47, in startup
>     _startup()
>   File
> "/home/ajung/.buildout/eggs/Zope2-2.13.8-py2.6.egg/Zope2/App/startup.py", line
> 118, in startup
>     load_zcml()
>   File
> "/home/ajung/.buildout/eggs/Zope2-2.13.8-py2.6.egg/Zope2/App/startup.py", line
> 52, in load_zcml
>     load_site()
>   File
> "/home/ajung/.buildout/eggs/Zope2-2.13.8-py2.6.egg/Zope2/App/zcml.py",
> line 46, in load_site
>     _context = xmlconfig.file(site_zcml)
>   File
> "/home/ajung/.buildout/eggs/zope.configuration-3.7.4-py2.6.egg/zope/configuration/xmlconfig.py",
> line 651, in file
>     context.execute_actions()
>   File
> "/home/ajung/.buildout/eggs/zope.configuration-3.7.4-py2.6.egg/zope/configuration/config.py",
> line 626, in execute_actions
>     callable(*args, **kw)
>   File
> "/home/ajung/.buildout/eggs/Zope2-2.13.8-py2.6.egg/OFS/metaconfigure.py", line
> 120, in _registerClass
>     permission_obj = getUtility(IPermission, permission)
>   File
> "/home/ajung/.buildout/eggs/zope.component-3.9.5-py2.6.egg/zope/component/_api.py",
> line 169, in getUtility
>     raise ComponentLookupError(interface, name)
> zope.configuration.config.ConfigurationExecutionError:<class
> 'zope.component.interfaces.ComponentLookupError'>: (<InterfaceClass
> zope.security.interfaces.IPermission>, 'cmf.ManagePortal')
>   in:
>   File
> "/home/ajung/.buildout/eggs/alm.solrindex-1.1.1-py2.6.egg/alm/solrindex/configure.zcml",
> line 47.0-53.6
>   <five:registerClass
>       class=".index.SolrIndex"
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>       addview="addSolrIndex.html"
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>       global="False"
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From lists at zopyx.com  Sat Aug 13 06:33:10 2011
From: lists at zopyx.com (Andreas Jung)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 08:33:10 +0200
Subject: [Product-Developers] ComponentLookupErrors with various add-ons
 unter Plone 4.1
In-Reply-To: <j23p4p$m47$1@dough.gmane.org>
References: <4E454FD7.6060602@zopyx.com> <j23p4p$m47$1@dough.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <4E461AA6.80507@zopyx.com>

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Raphael Ritz wrote:
> On 8/12/11 6:07 PM, Andreas Jung wrote: I encountered the following
> error with multiple add-ons under Plone 4.1 (working nicely with
> Plone 4.0).
> 
>> http://plone.org/documentation/manual/upgrade-guide/version/upgrading-plone-4.0-to-4.1/updating-add-on-products-for-plone-4.1/referencemanual-all-pages
>
>> 
> 
>> see 'updating permissions' in particular.
> 
>> If you aim for backwards compatibility I'd recommend to make this
>> conditional on plone41 or skip the specification of the permissions
>> file in ZCML. Otherwise stuff will break on Plone 3.x.

This is strange - various of my own add-ons run without
modifications on Plone 4.1 - and they do of course use cmf.XXX
permissions to protect views. None of my add-ons contains

<include package="Products.CMFCore" file="permissions.zcml" />

That's why I am surprised.

- -aj
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From davidglick at groundwire.org  Sat Aug 13 17:03:27 2011
From: davidglick at groundwire.org (David Glick)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 10:03:27 -0700
Subject: [Product-Developers] ComponentLookupErrors with various add-ons
 unter Plone 4.1
In-Reply-To: <4E461AA6.80507@zopyx.com>
References: <4E454FD7.6060602@zopyx.com> <j23p4p$m47$1@dough.gmane.org>
 <4E461AA6.80507@zopyx.com>
Message-ID: <4E46AE5F.3020202@groundwire.org>

On 8/12/11 11:33 PM, Andreas Jung wrote:
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>
>
> Raphael Ritz wrote:
>> On 8/12/11 6:07 PM, Andreas Jung wrote: I encountered the following
>> error with multiple add-ons under Plone 4.1 (working nicely with
>> Plone 4.0).
>>
>>> http://plone.org/documentation/manual/upgrade-guide/version/upgrading-plone-4.0-to-4.1/updating-add-on-products-for-plone-4.1/referencemanual-all-pages
>>> see 'updating permissions' in particular.
>>> If you aim for backwards compatibility I'd recommend to make this
>>> conditional on plone41 or skip the specification of the permissions
>>> file in ZCML. Otherwise stuff will break on Plone 3.x.
> This is strange - various of my own add-ons run without
> modifications on Plone 4.1 - and they do of course use cmf.XXX
> permissions to protect views. None of my add-ons contains
>
> <include package="Products.CMFCore" file="permissions.zcml" />
>
> That's why I am surprised.
>
It's a matter of what order packages' ZCML gets loaded. If your packages 
that use CMF permissions happen to load after CMFPlone or something else 
that includes CMFCore's ZCML, it will work fine. If your packages load 
first, it won't unless your package also includes CMFCore's ZCML.
David


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From aclark at aclark.net  Sat Aug 13 22:10:10 2011
From: aclark at aclark.net (Alex Clark)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 18:10:10 -0400
Subject: [Product-Developers] ComponentLookupErrors with various add-ons
	unter Plone 4.1
In-Reply-To: <4E46AE5F.3020202@groundwire.org>
References: <4E454FD7.6060602@zopyx.com> <j23p4p$m47$1@dough.gmane.org>
 <4E461AA6.80507@zopyx.com> <4E46AE5F.3020202@groundwire.org>
Message-ID: <j26so2$jqb$1@dough.gmane.org>

On 8/13/11 1:03 PM, David Glick wrote:
> On 8/12/11 11:33 PM, Andreas Jung wrote:
>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>> Hash: SHA1
>>
>>
>>
>> Raphael Ritz wrote:
>>> On 8/12/11 6:07 PM, Andreas Jung wrote: I encountered the following
>>> error with multiple add-ons under Plone 4.1 (working nicely with
>>> Plone 4.0).
>>>
>>>> http://plone.org/documentation/manual/upgrade-guide/version/upgrading-plone-4.0-to-4.1/updating-add-on-products-for-plone-4.1/referencemanual-all-pages
>>>>
>>>> see 'updating permissions' in particular.
>>>> If you aim for backwards compatibility I'd recommend to make this
>>>> conditional on plone41 or skip the specification of the permissions
>>>> file in ZCML. Otherwise stuff will break on Plone 3.x.
>> This is strange - various of my own add-ons run without
>> modifications on Plone 4.1 - and they do of course use cmf.XXX
>> permissions to protect views. None of my add-ons contains
>>
>> <include package="Products.CMFCore" file="permissions.zcml" />
>>
>> That's why I am surprised.
>>
> It's a matter of what order packages' ZCML gets loaded. If your packages
> that use CMF permissions happen to load after CMFPlone or something else
> that includes CMFCore's ZCML, it will work fine. If your packages load
> first, it won't unless your package also includes CMFCore's ZCML.

What determines the load order? And is it "safe" to just load the 
appropriate ZCML in our add-ons knowing it will get re-loaded later?


> David
>
>
> ----------
> David Glick
> Web Developer
> davidglick at groundwire.org
> 206.286.1235x32
>
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From davidglick at groundwire.org  Sun Aug 14 04:37:14 2011
From: davidglick at groundwire.org (David Glick)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 21:37:14 -0700
Subject: [Product-Developers] ComponentLookupErrors with various add-ons
 unter Plone 4.1
In-Reply-To: <j26so2$jqb$1@dough.gmane.org>
References: <4E454FD7.6060602@zopyx.com> <j23p4p$m47$1@dough.gmane.org>
 <4E461AA6.80507@zopyx.com> <4E46AE5F.3020202@groundwire.org>
 <j26so2$jqb$1@dough.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <4E4750FA.6000009@groundwire.org>

On 8/13/11 3:10 PM, Alex Clark wrote:
> On 8/13/11 1:03 PM, David Glick wrote:
>> On 8/12/11 11:33 PM, Andreas Jung wrote:
>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Raphael Ritz wrote:
>>>> On 8/12/11 6:07 PM, Andreas Jung wrote: I encountered the following
>>>> error with multiple add-ons under Plone 4.1 (working nicely with
>>>> Plone 4.0).
>>>>
>>>>> http://plone.org/documentation/manual/upgrade-guide/version/upgrading-plone-4.0-to-4.1/updating-add-on-products-for-plone-4.1/referencemanual-all-pages
>>>>>
>>>>> see 'updating permissions' in particular.
>>>>> If you aim for backwards compatibility I'd recommend to make this
>>>>> conditional on plone41 or skip the specification of the permissions
>>>>> file in ZCML. Otherwise stuff will break on Plone 3.x.
>>> This is strange - various of my own add-ons run without
>>> modifications on Plone 4.1 - and they do of course use cmf.XXX
>>> permissions to protect views. None of my add-ons contains
>>>
>>> <include package="Products.CMFCore" file="permissions.zcml" />
>>>
>>> That's why I am surprised.
>>>
>> It's a matter of what order packages' ZCML gets loaded. If your packages
>> that use CMF permissions happen to load after CMFPlone or something else
>> that includes CMFCore's ZCML, it will work fine. If your packages load
>> first, it won't unless your package also includes CMFCore's ZCML.
> What determines the load order?
I'm not sure.
> And is it "safe" to just load the
> appropriate ZCML in our add-ons knowing it will get re-loaded later?
Yes. The ZCML configuration will prevent a ZCML file from being 
processed. more than once.


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From developer at acsr.de  Sun Aug 14 11:00:18 2011
From: developer at acsr.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Armin_Stro=DF-Radschinski?=)
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 13:00:18 +0200
Subject: [Product-Developers] i18ndude with zopeskel-paster generated
	Archetypes is ignoring explicit msgids in the schema file
Message-ID: <A9830AEE-38CE-4921-A0F8-0E24A4D127CC@acsr.de>

Hi together,
I am using i18ndude with zopeskel/paster generated Archetypes for  
Plone4.1 for the first time.

  i18ndude ignoring explicit msgids in the schema seems a known ploblem.
  It uses the label or description itself as the msgid instead.

Environment:
=================
	? Plone 4109
	? CMF 2.2.4
	? Zope 2.13.8
	? Python 2.6.7 (r267:88850, Jul 29 2011, 10:54:55) [GCC 4.2.4 (Ubuntu  
4.2.4-1ubuntu4)]
	? PIL 1.1.6.4

I used zettwerk.i18nduder as a wrapper for calling i18ndude 3.2.2



I am new to using zopeskel/paster to generate Archetypes with paster  
local commands.
There are some pitfalls in preparation for internationalisation not  
documented yet I came over yesterday.
I have to write rthis down soon.

Now I have a running and installing package wit some Archetypes that  
translate well with LinguaPlone.
Next step ist generating the .po / .pot files via i18ndude.

I  wrote the default text into the widget label and description  
parameters.
Thgen I started to create "speaking" abstract msgids and added them to  
the widget definition as usual together with the i18n_domain.

The msgid is simply ignored on running i18ndude. As you see trying  
putting the msgid definition before the i.e. label had no effect at  
all.. I tried the opposite too!

Curious for pointing to an existing solution while looking for my own.

Outlook:
-----------------

The placement of the msgid first seems a good point to force the  
generation of the #Default: msg and using the ststed msgid.


Question to ArchGenXML experts:
=============================

Is it possible to use ArchGenXML generated POT feature with Archetypes  
not created via ArchGenXML?
It seems that ArchGenXML has fixed this.


Examples
================

This is one of my Archetype fields schema in one of my content types  
files:
~/instances/MySite/src/mytranslated.package/mytranslated/package/ 
content/tour.py

The schema file:
-------------------------------------------------

...

     atapi.StringField('productCode',
         required=False,
         searchable=True,
         languageIndependent=False,
         storage=atapi.AnnotationStorage(),
          
widget 
=atapi.StringWidget(label_msgid='MyTranslationDomain_label_productCode',
                                   label=_(u"Product Code"),
                                   i18n_domain='MyTranslationDomain',
                                    
description_msgid='MyTranslationDomain_help_productCode',
                                   description=_(u"A short unique code  
to identify our products"),
                                   ),
         ),

...

The i18ndude generated POT file:
-------------------------------------------------

~/instances/MySite/src/mytranslated.package/mytranslated/package/ 
locales/mytranslated.package.pot

a usual entry is:

...

#: ./../content/tour.py:45
msgid "A short unique code to identify our products"
msgstr ""

...


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Telefon +49 (0) 22 41 / 94 69 94, FAX +49 (0) 22 41 / 94 69 96
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From aclark at aclark.net  Sun Aug 14 15:24:43 2011
From: aclark at aclark.net (Alex Clark)
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 11:24:43 -0400
Subject: [Product-Developers] ComponentLookupErrors with various add-ons
	unter Plone 4.1
In-Reply-To: <4E4750FA.6000009@groundwire.org>
References: <4E454FD7.6060602@zopyx.com> <j23p4p$m47$1@dough.gmane.org>
 <4E461AA6.80507@zopyx.com> <4E46AE5F.3020202@groundwire.org>
 <j26so2$jqb$1@dough.gmane.org> <4E4750FA.6000009@groundwire.org>
Message-ID: <j28pbs$p9c$1@dough.gmane.org>

On 8/14/11 12:37 AM, David Glick wrote:
> On 8/13/11 3:10 PM, Alex Clark wrote:
>> On 8/13/11 1:03 PM, David Glick wrote:
>>> On 8/12/11 11:33 PM, Andreas Jung wrote:
>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Raphael Ritz wrote:
>>>>> On 8/12/11 6:07 PM, Andreas Jung wrote: I encountered the following
>>>>> error with multiple add-ons under Plone 4.1 (working nicely with
>>>>> Plone 4.0).
>>>>>
>>>>>> http://plone.org/documentation/manual/upgrade-guide/version/upgrading-plone-4.0-to-4.1/updating-add-on-products-for-plone-4.1/referencemanual-all-pages
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> see 'updating permissions' in particular.
>>>>>> If you aim for backwards compatibility I'd recommend to make this
>>>>>> conditional on plone41 or skip the specification of the permissions
>>>>>> file in ZCML. Otherwise stuff will break on Plone 3.x.
>>>> This is strange - various of my own add-ons run without
>>>> modifications on Plone 4.1 - and they do of course use cmf.XXX
>>>> permissions to protect views. None of my add-ons contains
>>>>
>>>> <include package="Products.CMFCore" file="permissions.zcml" />
>>>>
>>>> That's why I am surprised.
>>>>
>>> It's a matter of what order packages' ZCML gets loaded. If your packages
>>> that use CMF permissions happen to load after CMFPlone or something else
>>> that includes CMFCore's ZCML, it will work fine. If your packages load
>>> first, it won't unless your package also includes CMFCore's ZCML.
>> What determines the load order?
> I'm not sure.

That might be fun to graph.

>> And is it "safe" to just load the
>> appropriate ZCML in our add-ons knowing it will get re-loaded later?
> Yes. The ZCML configuration will prevent a ZCML file from being
> processed. more than once.

Ah, thanks. Good to know.

>
>
> ----------
> David Glick
> Web Developer
> davidglick at groundwire.org
> 206.286.1235x32
>
> Online tools and strategies for the environmental movement.
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From m.van.rees at zestsoftware.nl  Mon Aug 15 08:26:21 2011
From: m.van.rees at zestsoftware.nl (Maurits van Rees)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 10:26:21 +0200
Subject: [Product-Developers] i18ndude with zopeskel-paster generated
 Archetypes is ignoring explicit msgids in the schema file
In-Reply-To: <A9830AEE-38CE-4921-A0F8-0E24A4D127CC@acsr.de>
References: <A9830AEE-38CE-4921-A0F8-0E24A4D127CC@acsr.de>
Message-ID: <j2al7d$3de$1@dough.gmane.org>

Op 14-08-11 13:00, Armin Stro?-Radschinski schreef:
> Examples
> ================
>
> This is one of my Archetype fields schema in one of my content types files:
> ~/instances/MySite/src/mytranslated.package/mytranslated/package/content/tour.py
>
>
> The schema file:
> -------------------------------------------------
>
> ....
>
> atapi.StringField('productCode',
> required=False,
> searchable=True,
> languageIndependent=False,
> storage=atapi.AnnotationStorage(),
> widget=atapi.StringWidget(label_msgid='MyTranslationDomain_label_productCode',
>
> label=_(u"Product Code"),
> i18n_domain='MyTranslationDomain',
> description_msgid='MyTranslationDomain_help_productCode',
> description=_(u"A short unique code to identify our products"),
> ),
> ),

Here you are combining two ways of doing i18n: the archetypes specific 
way with label_msgid and i18n_domain and the general way of using the 
underscore (MessageFactory).  I recommend using only the new way. So 
that would be like this:

widget=atapi.StringWidget(label_msgid='',
     label=_(u'MyTranslationDomain_label_productCode',
             default=u"Product Code"),
     description=_(u'MyTranslationDomain_help_productCode',
                   default=u"A short unique code to identify our products"),
  ),



-- 
Maurits van Rees
Web App Programmer at Zest Software: http://zestsoftware.nl
Personal website: http://maurits.vanrees.org/


From m.van.rees at zestsoftware.nl  Mon Aug 15 14:30:13 2011
From: m.van.rees at zestsoftware.nl (Maurits van Rees)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 16:30:13 +0200
Subject: [Product-Developers] i18ndude with zopeskel-paster generated
 Archetypes is ignoring explicit msgids in the schema file
In-Reply-To: <j2al7d$3de$1@dough.gmane.org>
References: <A9830AEE-38CE-4921-A0F8-0E24A4D127CC@acsr.de>
 <j2al7d$3de$1@dough.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <j2bahl$5sl$1@dough.gmane.org>

Op 15-08-11 10:26, Maurits van Rees schreef:
> Here you are combining two ways of doing i18n: the archetypes specific
> way with label_msgid and i18n_domain and the general way of using the
> underscore (MessageFactory). I recommend using only the new way. So that
> would be like this:
>
> widget=atapi.StringWidget(label_msgid='',
> label=_(u'MyTranslationDomain_label_productCode',
> default=u"Product Code"),
> description=_(u'MyTranslationDomain_help_productCode',
> default=u"A short unique code to identify our products"),
> ),

Oh, rereading my own message I see I forgot to remove one string.  It 
should be like this (barring typos):

widget=atapi.StringWidget(
   label=_(u'MyTranslationDomain_label_productCode',
           default=u"Product Code"),
   description=_(u'MyTranslationDomain_help_productCode',
                 default=u"A short unique code to identify our products"),
  ),



-- 
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Web App Programmer at Zest Software: http://zestsoftware.nl
Personal website: http://maurits.vanrees.org/


From developer at acsr.de  Mon Aug 15 16:33:49 2011
From: developer at acsr.de (=?WINDOWS-1252?Q?Armin_Stro=DF-Radschinski?=)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 18:33:49 +0200
Subject: [Product-Developers] i18ndude with zopeskel-paster generated
	Archetypes is ignoring explicit msgids in the schema file
In-Reply-To: <j2al7d$3de$1@dough.gmane.org>
References: <A9830AEE-38CE-4921-A0F8-0E24A4D127CC@acsr.de>
 <j2al7d$3de$1@dough.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <54ACE6E8-0856-4BC2-8994-854510D8C6A8@acsr.de>

Hi Maurits,
thanks for pointing this out.

Indeed I oversaw first the atschema local command that did two things:
Adding the correct underscore (MessageFactory) entry in the  
content .py file. This is not present when you only run

	paster addcontent mytype

Because the at field skeleton injected from paster does not reflect  
the approach you describe later down, I started to edit  the schema by  
hand.

Without running

	paster addcontent atschema

You get a name error for "_". It is quite difficult to search in  
google for something related to underscore and or "_(u".

Finally I stumbled over a hint in Stackoverflow pointing to Django and  
figure out the approach documented in the "__init__.py" file of the  
inner namespace of the package.

Do you know a reason why the line below the comment in the type schema  
in the content folder is omitted on initial creation of the type:
file ../content/*.py

##################################
...
# -*- Message Factory Imported Here -*-
from package.mypackage import viewsMessageFactory as _  # this is only  
present after creating the first field!

##################################

Hope this forum entry helps to look up this

Three things:
1. Something next to the comment in the contenttype ../content/*.py  
file should be more verbose like:

##################################

# Avoid adding initial field skeletons by hand, use atschema local  
command instead.
# If not: On 'Name error: "_" is undefined' , uncomment the following  
line:
# from {package.mypackage} import viewsMessageFactory as _

# {package.mypackage} must be replaced by paster on creation.

##################################

2. The skeleton you provided below, should be present in the schema  
generated by paster addcontent atschema.

3. The import of the atapi module should be already prepared with the  
safe 4 lines for LinguaPlone. Or the paster script should have an  
option to default to this (even dexterity is coming up, but as I know  
it is still not i18n aware).

I am looking forward to test the new syntax with i18ndude.

Thank you very much!

Armin


Keywords: archetypes, zopeskel, paster, addcontent, atschema, Default  
Message,



Am 15.08.2011 um 10:26 schrieb Maurits van Rees:

> Op 14-08-11 13:00, Armin Stro?-Radschinski schreef:
>> Examples
>> ================
>>
>> This is one of my Archetype fields schema in one of my content  
>> types files:
>> ~/instances/MySite/src/mytranslated.package/mytranslated/package/ 
>> content/tour.py
>>
>>
>> The schema file:
>> -------------------------------------------------
>>
>> ....
>>
>> atapi.StringField('productCode',
>> required=False,
>> searchable=True,
>> languageIndependent=False,
>> storage=atapi.AnnotationStorage(),
>> widget 
>> = 
>> atapi 
>> .StringWidget(label_msgid='MyTranslationDomain_label_productCode',
>>
>> label=_(u"Product Code"),
>> i18n_domain='MyTranslationDomain',
>> description_msgid='MyTranslationDomain_help_productCode',
>> description=_(u"A short unique code to identify our products"),
>> ),
>> ),
>
> Here you are combining two ways of doing i18n: the archetypes  
> specific way with label_msgid and i18n_domain and the general way of  
> using the underscore (MessageFactory).  I recommend using only the  
> new way. So that would be like this:
>
> widget=atapi.StringWidget(label_msgid='',
>    label=_(u'MyTranslationDomain_label_productCode',
>            default=u"Product Code"),
>    description=_(u'MyTranslationDomain_help_productCode',
>                  default=u"A short unique code to identify our  
> products"),
> ),
>
> -- 
> Maurits van Rees
> Web App Programmer at Zest Software: http://zestsoftware.nl
> Personal website: http://maurits.vanrees.org/
>
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Telefon +49 (0) 22 41 / 94 69 94, FAX +49 (0) 22 41 / 94 69 96
eMail a.stross-radschinski at acsr.de - http://www.acsr.de
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From dominikruf at gmail.com  Mon Aug 15 19:42:06 2011
From: dominikruf at gmail.com (Dominik)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 12:42:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Product-Developers] How to override MembershipTool (or how to use
	custom portraits)
Message-ID: <1313437326578-6688902.post@n2.nabble.com>

Hi,

I'd like to create an addon that uses portraits that are not stored in
plone.
So far I found out that the portraits are managed by the MembershipTool.
So I guess I have to override the MembershipTool with one that has a custom
getPersonalPortrait() methode.
But I'm not sure how to do that. How do I tell plone to use my
MembershipTool instead of the on in PlonePAS? Especially it should only be
overridden if the addon is actually installed on a site.

Can somebody give me some direction?

cheers
Dominik

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From r.ritz at biologie.hu-berlin.de  Tue Aug 16 10:44:39 2011
From: r.ritz at biologie.hu-berlin.de (Raphael Ritz)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 12:44:39 +0200
Subject: [Product-Developers] How to override MembershipTool (or how to
	use custom portraits)
In-Reply-To: <1313437326578-6688902.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <1313437326578-6688902.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <j2dhmn$v16$1@dough.gmane.org>

On 8/15/11 9:42 PM, Dominik wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'd like to create an addon that uses portraits that are not stored in
> plone.
> So far I found out that the portraits are managed by the MembershipTool.
> So I guess I have to override the MembershipTool with one that has a custom
> getPersonalPortrait() methode.
> But I'm not sure how to do that. How do I tell plone to use my
> MembershipTool instead of the on in PlonePAS? Especially it should only be
> overridden if the addon is actually installed on a site.
>
> Can somebody give me some direction?

Ages old but maybe still helpful

http://www.zopyx.de/downloads/documentation/mysite.pdf

Specifically the section about the MembershipTool might
be of interest to you ;-)

Raphael


>
> cheers
> Dominik
>
> --
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From mike at metcalfe.co.za  Tue Aug 16 12:24:00 2011
From: mike at metcalfe.co.za (Mike Metcalfe)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 14:24:00 +0200
Subject: [Product-Developers] Search error on dexterity objects
Message-ID: <CAPQ4aT4Z_k-6EspyLg37Ubi4s8nM296tVDz8ttZbEYUUu=Jvew@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I have a problem in plone 4.1 when searching for dexterity objects with
empty description fields (I explicitly added the title and description field
as per the manual). This was reported in plone.dexterity issue 179 and fixed
in r49792 by changing the Description accessor in content.py:
@@ -228,7 +228,7 @@
         # this is a CMF-style accessor, so should return utf8-encoded
         if isinstance(self.description, unicode):
             return self.description.encode('utf8')
-        return self.description
+        return self.description or ''

I put a pdb in that method but it doesn't get called when viewing or editing
my object. Hence the catalog record has a description of None. If I add an
accessor in my class with the same code above, the catalog record's
description is empty (as opposed to None) and the search works. I also tried
removing the title and description from the schema and added the basic
metadata behaviour and that obviously also worked.

Using the basic metadata behaviour will work for some of my types but one of
my types doesn't need a description and the title on another optional. Any
thoughts on how I should proceed?

Thanks
Mike
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From m.van.rees at zestsoftware.nl  Wed Aug 17 09:25:51 2011
From: m.van.rees at zestsoftware.nl (Maurits van Rees)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 11:25:51 +0200
Subject: [Product-Developers] How to override MembershipTool (or how to
	use custom portraits)
In-Reply-To: <1313437326578-6688902.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <1313437326578-6688902.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <j2g1eu$pq$1@dough.gmane.org>

Op 15-08-11 21:42, Dominik schreef:
> Hi,
>
> I'd like to create an addon that uses portraits that are not stored in
> plone.
> So far I found out that the portraits are managed by the MembershipTool.
> So I guess I have to override the MembershipTool with one that has a custom
> getPersonalPortrait() methode.
> But I'm not sure how to do that. How do I tell plone to use my
> MembershipTool instead of the on in PlonePAS? Especially it should only be
> overridden if the addon is actually installed on a site.
>
> Can somebody give me some direction?

This is untested pseudo code, but a patch in your package that is loaded 
on startup could work:


from somewhere import MembershipTool

def new_getPersonalPortrait(self, *args, **kwargs):
     if my package is installed in this Plone Site:
         return external portrait
     return self._orig_getPersonalPortrait(*args, **kwargs)

MembershipTool._orig_getPersonalPortrait = getPersonalPortrait
MembershipTool.getPersonalPortrait = new_getPersonalPortrait


In other words, if may be enough to not override the complete 
MembershipTool, but just this single method.


-- 
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Web App Programmer at Zest Software: http://zestsoftware.nl
Personal website: http://maurits.vanrees.org/


From gilles.lenfant at alterway.fr  Fri Aug 19 11:57:30 2011
From: gilles.lenfant at alterway.fr (Gilles Lenfant)
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 13:57:30 +0200
Subject: [Product-Developers] Viewlets on IHTMLHead viewlets mgr are updated
	on Unauthorized object.
Message-ID: <0F9BC352-62CD-4F9E-B3A4-3A63130A9922@alterway.fr>

Hi,

Putting together Plone 4.0.7 with sc.social.like, I noticed that the publication process loops infinitely in a deadlock when an user tries to view an item he is not allowed to view. See the full scenario, investigation details and fix in this ticket.

https://bitbucket.org/takaki/sc.social.like/issue/1/deadlock-when-viewing-an-object-on-which

Thinking back after recording this ticket, I dunno if I faced a sc.social.like bug or a Plone issue. In other words, why the publication process tries to update the viewlets for IHTMLHead manager on unauthorized objects, when a UnauthorizedBinding object is pushed as an (unusable) context.

Any opinion why Plone tries to update such viewlets when an Unauthorized is pending ? Is this a Plone issue ? Or should we always override the "update" method of viewlets (inheriting from plone.app.layout.viewlets.common.ViewletBase) for viewlets for IHTMLHead manager ?

Thanks by advance for any argued opinion.

-- 
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From davidglick at groundwire.org  Sun Aug 21 21:26:01 2011
From: davidglick at groundwire.org (David Glick)
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 14:26:01 -0700
Subject: [Product-Developers] UnicodeDecodeError while rendering image
 from dexterity content type
In-Reply-To: <CAKYVvaGiKwTcqwAvBNCSoH9Gg4BOEFXAAhWEPXwH8GWUahwqTw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKYVvaGiKwTcqwAvBNCSoH9Gg4BOEFXAAhWEPXwH8GWUahwqTw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4E5177E9.4000809@groundwire.org>

On 7/28/11 9:42 AM, Noe Nieto wrote:
Plone 4.1, Dexterity 1.0.1
I have a Dexterity content-type with plone.app.content.interfaces.INameFromTitle and plone.app.dexterity.behaviors.metadata.IBasic behaviors:
The schema is this:

class IAuthor(form.Schema):
    """
    Profile for Book or DVD authors.
    """

    portrait = namedfile.NamedBlobImage(
        title=_(u"Author's Portrait/Photo"),
        description=_(u"Portrayal of the Author."),
        required=True,
    )

    form.widget(bio="plone.app.z3cform.wysiwyg.WysiwygFieldWidget")
    bio = schema.Text(
        title=_(u"Author's Bio"),
        description=_(u"The Author's Bio"),
        required=True,
    )

The template is very basic:

<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en"
      xmlns:tal="http://xml.zope.org/namespaces/tal"
      xmlns:metal="http://xml.zope.org/namespaces/metal"
      xmlns:i18n="http://xml.zope.org/namespaces/i18n"
      lang="en"
      metal:use-macro="context/main_template/macros/master"
      i18n:domain="holokinesislibros.contenttypes">
<body>


<metal:main fill-slot="content-core">
  <metal:content-core define-macro="content-core">

        <div class="bio-portrait"
             tal:define="portrait nocall:context/portrait"
             tal:condition="nocall:portrait">
             <img tal:replace="structure context/@@images/portrait/mini" />
        </div>

       <div tal:content="structure context/bio" />

  </metal:content-core>
</metal:main>

</body>
</html>

If I add an author with non-ascii chars in the title, the template will throw a traceback:

2011-07-28 09:34:42 ERROR Zope.SiteErrorLog 1311870882.960.569752426632 http://localhost:8002/Plone/author-with-accents-aeion/view
Traceback (innermost last):
  Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 126, in publish
  Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 77, in mapply
  Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 46, in call_object
  Module grokcore.view.components, line 100, in __call__
  Module grokcore.view.components, line 104, in _render_template
  Module five.grok.components, line 134, in render
  Module zope.pagetemplate.pagetemplate, line 113, in pt_render
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 271, in __call__
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 343, in interpret
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 888, in do_useMacro
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 343, in interpret
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 533, in do_optTag_tal
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 518, in do_optTag
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 513, in no_tag
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 343, in interpret
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 954, in do_defineSlot
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 343, in interpret
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 533, in do_optTag_tal
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 518, in do_optTag
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 513, in no_tag
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 343, in interpret
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 858, in do_defineMacro
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 343, in interpret
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 954, in do_defineSlot
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 343, in interpret
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 533, in do_optTag_tal
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 518, in do_optTag
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 513, in no_tag
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 343, in interpret
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 954, in do_defineSlot
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 343, in interpret
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 533, in do_optTag_tal
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 518, in do_optTag
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 513, in no_tag
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 343, in interpret
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 946, in do_defineSlot
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 343, in interpret
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 533, in do_optTag_tal
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 518, in do_optTag
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 513, in no_tag
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 343, in interpret
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 858, in do_defineMacro
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 343, in interpret
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 533, in do_optTag_tal
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 518, in do_optTag
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 513, in no_tag
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 343, in interpret
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 852, in do_condition
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 343, in interpret
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 531, in do_optTag_tal
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 513, in no_tag
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 343, in interpret
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 742, in do_insertStructure_tal
  Module Products.PageTemplates.Expressions, line 218, in evaluateStructure
  Module zope.tales.tales, line 696, in evaluate
   - URL: /home/tzicatl/Aplicaciones/Codigo/pu/holokinesis_libros/src/holokinesislibros.contenttypes/holokinesislibros/contenttypes/templates/author.pt<http://author.pt>
   - Line 17, Column 13
   - Expression: <PathExpr standard:u'context/@@images/portrait/mini'>
   - Names:
      {'args': (),
       'container': <Author at /Plone/author-with-accents-aeion>,
       'context': <Author at /Plone/author-with-accents-aeion>,
       'default': <object object at 0xb783b6b0>,
       'here': <Author at /Plone/author-with-accents-aeion>,
       'loop': {},
       'nothing': None,
       'options': {},
       'repeat': <Products.PageTemplates.Expressions.SafeMapping object at 0xcb6289c>,
       'request': <HTTPRequest, URL=http://localhost:8002/Plone/author-with-accents-aeion/view>,
       'root': <Application at >,
       'static': <five.grok.components.ZopeTwoDirectoryResource object at 0xb5309c0c>,
       'template': <Products.Five.browser.pagetemplatefile.ViewPageTemplateFile object at 0xd329c8c>,
       'traverse_subpath': [],
       'user': <PropertiedUser 'admin'>,
       'view': <holokinesislibros.contenttypes.author.View object at 0xb533848c>,
       'views': <Products.Five.browser.pagetemplatefile.ViewMapper object at 0xb532348c>}
  Module zope.tales.expressions, line 217, in __call__
  Module Products.PageTemplates.Expressions, line 147, in _eval
  Module zope.tales.expressions, line 124, in _eval
  Module Products.PageTemplates.Expressions, line 97, in trustedBoboAwareZopeTraverse
  Module zope.traversing.adapters, line 136, in traversePathElement
   - __traceback_info__: (<Products.Five.metaclass.ImageScaling object at 0xb53306cc>, 'portrait')
  Module plone.namedfile.scaling, line 126, in traverse
  Module plone.namedfile.scaling, line 68, in tag
  Module plone.namedfile.scaling, line 68, in <genexpr>
UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position 20: ordinal not in range(128)


This is the plone.namedfile.scaling.ImageScale::tag() function:

    def tag(self, height=_marker, width=_marker, alt=_marker,
            css_class=None, title=_marker, **kwargs):
        """Create a tag including scale
        """
        if height is _marker:
            height = getattr(self, 'height', self.data._height)
        if width is _marker:
            width = getattr(self, 'width', self.data._width)

        if alt is _marker:
            alt = self.context.Title()
        if title is _marker:
            title = self.context.Title()

        values = [
            ('src', self.url),
            ('alt', alt),
            ('title', title),
            ('height', height),
            ('width', width),
            ('class', css_class),
            ]
        values.extend(kwargs.items())

        parts = ['<img']
        parts.extend("%s=%s" % (k, quoteattr(unicode(v))) for k, v in values if v is not None)
        parts.append('/>')

        return u' '.join(parts)

It takes the context's title and uses it for the alt and title attributes of the img tag.  Is this a bug in plone.app.scaling or in my code?
It was a bug in plone.namedfile (it's that "unicode(v)" without specifying which encoding to use). I just released version 1.0.4 of plone.namedfile which should fix the problem.

Sorry for the long delay in responding; I was on vacation.
David



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From nnieto at noenieto.com  Mon Aug 22 01:00:17 2011
From: nnieto at noenieto.com (Noe Nieto)
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 20:00:17 -0500
Subject: [Product-Developers] UnicodeDecodeError while rendering image
 from dexterity content type
In-Reply-To: <4E5177E9.4000809@groundwire.org>
References: <CAKYVvaGiKwTcqwAvBNCSoH9Gg4BOEFXAAhWEPXwH8GWUahwqTw@mail.gmail.com>
 <4E5177E9.4000809@groundwire.org>
Message-ID: <CAKYVvaGdpjSY7b5LkgccZ3cfa4bjpiCzMswKod3oo11PDrQhtQ@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks David.

I'll try the new version right away.

---
Noe

2011/8/21 David Glick <davidglick at groundwire.org>

>  On 7/28/11 9:42 AM, Noe Nieto wrote:
>
> Plone 4.1, Dexterity 1.0.1
> I have a Dexterity content-type with
> plone.app.content.interfaces.INameFromTitle and
> plone.app.dexterity.behaviors.metadata.IBasic behaviors:
> The schema is this:
>
> class IAuthor(form.Schema):
>     """
>     Profile for Book or DVD authors.
>     """
>
>     portrait = namedfile.NamedBlobImage(
>         title=_(u"Author's Portrait/Photo"),
>         description=_(u"Portrayal of the Author."),
>         required=True,
>     )
>
>     form.widget(bio="plone.app.z3cform.wysiwyg.WysiwygFieldWidget")
>     bio = schema.Text(
>         title=_(u"Author's Bio"),
>         description=_(u"The Author's Bio"),
>         required=True,
>     )
>
> The template is very basic:
>
> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en"
>       xmlns:tal="http://xml.zope.org/namespaces/tal"
>       xmlns:metal="http://xml.zope.org/namespaces/metal"
>       xmlns:i18n="http://xml.zope.org/namespaces/i18n"
>       lang="en"
>       metal:use-macro="context/main_template/macros/master"
>       i18n:domain="holokinesislibros.contenttypes">
> <body>
>
>
> <metal:main fill-slot="content-core">
>   <metal:content-core define-macro="content-core">
>
>         <div class="bio-portrait"
>              tal:define="portrait nocall:context/portrait"
>              tal:condition="nocall:portrait">
>              <img tal:replace="structure context/@@images/portrait/mini" />
>         </div>
>
>        <div tal:content="structure context/bio" />
>
>   </metal:content-core>
> </metal:main>
>
> </body>
> </html>
>
> If I add an author with non-ascii chars in the title, the template will
> throw a traceback:
>
> 2011-07-28 09:34:42 ERROR Zope.SiteErrorLog 1311870882.960.569752426632
> http://localhost:8002/Plone/author-with-accents-aeion/view
> Traceback (innermost last):
>   Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 126, in publish
>   Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 77, in mapply
>   Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 46, in call_object
>   Module grokcore.view.components, line 100, in __call__
>   Module grokcore.view.components, line 104, in _render_template
>   Module five.grok.components, line 134, in render
>   Module zope.pagetemplate.pagetemplate, line 113, in pt_render
>   Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 271, in __call__
>   Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 343, in interpret
>   Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 888, in do_useMacro
>   Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 343, in interpret
>   Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 533, in do_optTag_tal
>   Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 518, in do_optTag
>   Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 513, in no_tag
>   Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 343, in interpret
>   Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 954, in do_defineSlot
>   Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 343, in interpret
>   Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 533, in do_optTag_tal
>   Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 518, in do_optTag
>   Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 513, in no_tag
>   Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 343, in interpret
>   Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 858, in do_defineMacro
>   Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 343, in interpret
>   Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 954, in do_defineSlot
>   Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 343, in interpret
>   Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 533, in do_optTag_tal
>   Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 518, in do_optTag
>   Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 513, in no_tag
>   Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 343, in interpret
>   Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 954, in do_defineSlot
>   Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 343, in interpret
>   Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 533, in do_optTag_tal
>   Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 518, in do_optTag
>   Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 513, in no_tag
>   Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 343, in interpret
>   Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 946, in do_defineSlot
>   Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 343, in interpret
>   Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 533, in do_optTag_tal
>   Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 518, in do_optTag
>   Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 513, in no_tag
>   Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 343, in interpret
>   Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 858, in do_defineMacro
>   Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 343, in interpret
>   Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 533, in do_optTag_tal
>   Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 518, in do_optTag
>   Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 513, in no_tag
>   Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 343, in interpret
>   Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 852, in do_condition
>   Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 343, in interpret
>   Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 531, in do_optTag_tal
>   Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 513, in no_tag
>   Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 343, in interpret
>   Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 742, in do_insertStructure_tal
>   Module Products.PageTemplates.Expressions, line 218, in evaluateStructure
>   Module zope.tales.tales, line 696, in evaluate
>    - URL:
> /home/tzicatl/Aplicaciones/Codigo/pu/holokinesis_libros/src/holokinesislibros.contenttypes/holokinesislibros/contenttypes/templates/
> author.pt
>    - Line 17, Column 13
>    - Expression: <PathExpr standard:u'context/@@images/portrait/mini'>
>    - Names:
>       {'args': (),
>        'container': <Author at /Plone/author-with-accents-aeion>,
>        'context': <Author at /Plone/author-with-accents-aeion>,
>        'default': <object object at 0xb783b6b0>,
>        'here': <Author at /Plone/author-with-accents-aeion>,
>        'loop': {},
>        'nothing': None,
>        'options': {},
>        'repeat': <Products.PageTemplates.Expressions.SafeMapping object at
> 0xcb6289c>,
>        'request': <HTTPRequest, URL=
> http://localhost:8002/Plone/author-with-accents-aeion/view>,
>        'root': <Application at >,
>        'static': <five.grok.components.ZopeTwoDirectoryResource object at
> 0xb5309c0c>,
>        'template':
> <Products.Five.browser.pagetemplatefile.ViewPageTemplateFile object at
> 0xd329c8c>,
>        'traverse_subpath': [],
>        'user': <PropertiedUser 'admin'>,
>        'view': <holokinesislibros.contenttypes.author.View object at
> 0xb533848c>,
>        'views': <Products.Five.browser.pagetemplatefile.ViewMapper object
> at 0xb532348c>}
>   Module zope.tales.expressions, line 217, in __call__
>   Module Products.PageTemplates.Expressions, line 147, in _eval
>   Module zope.tales.expressions, line 124, in _eval
>   Module Products.PageTemplates.Expressions, line 97, in
> trustedBoboAwareZopeTraverse
>   Module zope.traversing.adapters, line 136, in traversePathElement
>    - __traceback_info__: (<Products.Five.metaclass.ImageScaling object at
> 0xb53306cc>, 'portrait')
>   Module plone.namedfile.scaling, line 126, in traverse
>   Module plone.namedfile.scaling, line 68, in tag
>   Module plone.namedfile.scaling, line 68, in <genexpr>
> UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position 20:
> ordinal not in range(128)
>
>
> This is the plone.namedfile.scaling.ImageScale::tag() function:
>
>     def tag(self, height=_marker, width=_marker, alt=_marker,
>             css_class=None, title=_marker, **kwargs):
>         """Create a tag including scale
>         """
>         if height is _marker:
>             height = getattr(self, 'height', self.data._height)
>         if width is _marker:
>             width = getattr(self, 'width', self.data._width)
>
>         if alt is _marker:
>             alt = self.context.Title()
>         if title is _marker:
>             title = self.context.Title()
>
>         values = [
>             ('src', self.url),
>             ('alt', alt),
>             ('title', title),
>             ('height', height),
>             ('width', width),
>             ('class', css_class),
>             ]
>         values.extend(kwargs.items())
>
>         parts = ['<img']
>         parts.extend("%s=%s" % (k, quoteattr(unicode(v))) for k, v in
> values if v is not None)
>         parts.append('/>')
>
>         return u' '.join(parts)
>
> It takes the context's title and uses it for the alt and title attributes
> of the img tag.  Is this a bug in plone.app.scaling or in my code?
>
> It was a bug in plone.namedfile (it's that "unicode(v)" without specifying
> which encoding to use). I just released version 1.0.4 of plone.namedfile
> which should fix the problem.
>
> Sorry for the long delay in responding; I was on vacation.
> David
>
>
>
> *David Glick*
> Web Developer
> davidglick at groundwire.org
> 206.286.1235x32
>
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From kleist at postkiosk.de  Tue Aug 23 17:42:31 2011
From: kleist at postkiosk.de (Karl Johan Kleist)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 10:42:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Product-Developers] collective.recipe.backup: support for
 collective.recipe.filestorage checked in
Message-ID: <1314121350992-6717142.post@n2.nabble.com>

Dear Plone fellows,

I've checked in a small enhancement of
collective.recipe.backup:repozorunner.py
(http://dev.plone.org/collective/changeset/243743) as to handle filestorage
files that reside in their own directory. This is the default behavior when
using collective.recipe.filestorage.

Who knows the e-mail addresses of the maintainers Reinout van Rees and
Maurits van Rees? I guess I should notify them, and if they approve they
might even release a new version.

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From dholth at gmail.com  Tue Aug 23 18:47:53 2011
From: dholth at gmail.com (Daniel Holth)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 14:47:53 -0400
Subject: [Product-Developers] restore IPython's zope profile
Message-ID: <CAG8k2+5jNvci5remNwgw7iogRXVaCWNwDxWB6OH7=k7qf9aJwA@mail.gmail.com>

I rely on `ipython --profile=zope` to debug my Plone instances so I
was disappointed that it no longer worked with IPython 0.11 and Plone
4. Fortunately, this is easy to fix with some edits to
ipy_profile_zope.py. Here's a very rough overview of what has to be
done:

- the deprecated ipapi has moved to IPython core

from IPython.core import ipapi

- removed references to IPython.Release, no longer set banner

- create new IPython profile: ipython profile create zope

- move ipy_profile_zope.py to ~/.ipython/profile_zope/zdebug.py

- import zdebug in ~/.ipython/profile_zope/ipython_config.py:

c.TerminalIPythonApp.exec_lines = [ "import zdebug" ]


Also, set CONFIG_FILE to point to Plone/zeocluster/parts/client1/etc/zope.conf.

It would be pretty simple to do this the "right" way for IPython 0.11
by removing the ipapi references and just setting the portal, app,
utils globals in exec_lines. Does anyone else debug Plone with IPython
0.11?

From kleist at postkiosk.de  Tue Aug 23 20:35:38 2011
From: kleist at postkiosk.de (Karl Johan Kleist)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 13:35:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Product-Developers] collective.recipe.backup: support for
 collective.recipe.filestorage checked in
In-Reply-To: <1314121350992-6717142.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <1314121350992-6717142.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <1314131738093-6717660.post@n2.nabble.com>

It just occurred to me, that it's probably not very smart to use the get_fs()
helper function in restore_main(). We can probably not assume that the
filestorage file already exists. So I've restored the old code in
restore_main():
http://dev.plone.org/collective/changeset/243750/buildout/collective.recipe.backup/trunk/src/collective/recipe/backup/repozorunner.py

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From jean.jordaan at gmail.com  Wed Aug 24 06:15:15 2011
From: jean.jordaan at gmail.com (Jean Jordaan)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 13:15:15 +0700
Subject: [Product-Developers] restore IPython's zope profile
In-Reply-To: <CAG8k2+5jNvci5remNwgw7iogRXVaCWNwDxWB6OH7=k7qf9aJwA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAG8k2+5jNvci5remNwgw7iogRXVaCWNwDxWB6OH7=k7qf9aJwA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJqnznAZ0M3jR2KCQQ-ZXWpnd3oWnM3XreVX5L=rsJoQvaBW1g@mail.gmail.com>

> Does anyone else debug Plone with IPython 0.11?

I do sometimes with 0.10

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From m.van.rees at zestsoftware.nl  Wed Aug 24 10:24:48 2011
From: m.van.rees at zestsoftware.nl (Maurits van Rees)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 12:24:48 +0200
Subject: [Product-Developers] collective.recipe.backup: support for
 collective.recipe.filestorage checked in
In-Reply-To: <1314121350992-6717142.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <1314121350992-6717142.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <j32jhg$p6e$1@dough.gmane.org>

Op 23-08-11 19:42, Karl Johan Kleist schreef:
> Dear Plone fellows,
>
> I've checked in a small enhancement of
> collective.recipe.backup:repozorunner.py
> (http://dev.plone.org/collective/changeset/243743) as to handle filestorage
> files that reside in their own directory. This is the default behavior when
> using collective.recipe.filestorage.
>
> Who knows the e-mail addresses of the maintainers Reinout van Rees and
> Maurits van Rees? I guess I should notify them, and if they approve they
> might even release a new version.

Hi, that would be me. :)  You can mail maurits at vanrees.org or use the 
contact form on my website http://maurits.vanrees.org

But you've got my attention now via this mailing list and I noticed the 
changes in the collective mailing list.  I will have a look at it.  Can 
you try adding a test for this?

I am now busy on a branch to add blobstorage backup and restore support 
though, so I am focusing on that first.

Thanks,


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From developer at acsr.de  Wed Aug 24 11:53:17 2011
From: developer at acsr.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Armin_Stro=DF-Radschinski?=)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 13:53:17 +0200
Subject: [Product-Developers] collective.recipe.backup: support for
	collective.recipe.filestorage checked in
In-Reply-To: <j32jhg$p6e$1@dough.gmane.org>
References: <1314121350992-6717142.post@n2.nabble.com>
 <j32jhg$p6e$1@dough.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <535BB5D8-61F0-4001-BABF-CE6C4FDA3BDE@acsr.de>

Hi Maurits,
please can you give me the location of that branch if it is public?

I wrote an rsync based incremental backup of the blobstorage using  
hardlinks to safe space but keep the whole tree per backup.

It is not published yet because I need to rework it for the case, the  
destination is on a different drive or server and (specially for me) a  
solution if the local backup is synced with a mirror. In this case it  
is important to recreate the links at the destination as links too,  
which is not solved yet.

I send you my code directly via mail due to some time limitation.  
There is no license on the code by me. Feel free to use this as  
inspiration.

Armin

Am 24.08.2011 um 12:24 schrieb Maurits van Rees:

> Op 23-08-11 19:42, Karl Johan Kleist schreef:
>> Dear Plone fellows,
>>
>> I've checked in a small enhancement of
>> collective.recipe.backup:repozorunner.py
>> (http://dev.plone.org/collective/changeset/243743) as to handle  
>> filestorage
>> files that reside in their own directory. This is the default  
>> behavior when
>> using collective.recipe.filestorage.
>>
>> Who knows the e-mail addresses of the maintainers Reinout van Rees  
>> and
>> Maurits van Rees? I guess I should notify them, and if they approve  
>> they
>> might even release a new version.
>
> Hi, that would be me. :)  You can mail maurits at vanrees.org or use  
> the contact form on my website http://maurits.vanrees.org
>
> But you've got my attention now via this mailing list and I noticed  
> the changes in the collective mailing list.  I will have a look at  
> it.  Can you try adding a test for this?
>
> I am now busy on a branch to add blobstorage backup and restore  
> support though, so I am focusing on that first.
>
> Thanks,

#!/bin/sh

#blobstoragesnapshot
VERSION="0.1.3"
echo "blobstoragesnapshot Version "$VERSION
echo "rsync based Plone blobstorage timemachine companion for repozo"

#20110226_19-35-31 by Armin Carl Stross-Radschinski, developer at acsr.de
#a rsync based Plone blobstorage timemachine companion for repozo
#Using rsync to make hardlinked snapshots of your blobstorage
#based on
#http://blog.interlinked.org/tutorials/rsync_time_machine.html
#
#Description
#Every snapshot is a full copy of the state of the blobstorage
#make sure your blobstorage is backuped AFTER the run of repozo AND
#no packing of the database has taken place until the  
blobstoragesnapshot
#is finished.
#Usually no file in the blobstorage is deleted until a pack is initiated
#keeping the prerequisite for a undo.
#Take care!

#ToDo
#take timestamp, source and destination via parameter to match repozo  
backups
#initiated by backup recipe

#
#History

#rev 0.1.3 20110226_20-10-59 by acsr
# date format changed to match the repozo timestamp
#rev 0.1.2 20110226_19-30-00 by acsr
# initial test on Ubuntu, destination directory creation added
#rev 0.1.1 20110226_19-41-36 by acsr
# first release working without ssh

date=`date "+%Y-%m-%d-%H-%M-%S"`
HOME="/home/goa/instances/everweb/var/blobstorage/"
DEST="/home/goa/instances/everweb/var/backupsblobstorage/"


#  --exclude-from=$HOME .rsync/exclude \
mkdir -p $DEST
rsync -azP \
   --delete \
   --delete-excluded \
   --link-dest=$DEST"current" \
   $HOME $DEST"incomplete_blobstorage-$date"

mv $DEST"incomplete_blobstorage-$date" $DEST"blobstorage-$date"
rm -f $DEST"current"
ln -s $DEST"blobstorage-$date" $DEST"current"

#from the comments (to be tested)
#how to restore data from the backup
#this will be the simplest restore option. If you want to restore the  
whole thing, you could do:

# rsync -aP /path/to/backup/folder/ /path/to/restore

#endblobstoragesnapshot




--
Armin Carl Stro?-Radschinski, Dipl. Designer
acsr industrialdesign, Landgrafenstra?e 32, 53842 Troisdorf, Germany

Telefon +49 (0) 22 41 / 94 69 94, FAX +49 (0) 22 41 / 94 69 96
eMail a.stross-radschinski at acsr.de - http://www.acsr.de
UST. ID Nr: DE154092803 (EU VAT ID)





From m.van.rees at zestsoftware.nl  Wed Aug 24 12:02:23 2011
From: m.van.rees at zestsoftware.nl (Maurits van Rees)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 14:02:23 +0200
Subject: [Product-Developers] collective.recipe.backup: support for
 collective.recipe.filestorage checked in
In-Reply-To: <535BB5D8-61F0-4001-BABF-CE6C4FDA3BDE@acsr.de>
References: <1314121350992-6717142.post@n2.nabble.com>
 <j32jhg$p6e$1@dough.gmane.org> <535BB5D8-61F0-4001-BABF-CE6C4FDA3BDE@acsr.de>
Message-ID: <j32p8f$24l$2@dough.gmane.org>

Op 24-08-11 13:53, Armin Stro?-Radschinski schreef:
> Hi Maurits,
> please can you give me the location of that branch if it is public?
>
> I wrote an rsync based incremental backup of the blobstorage using
> hardlinks to safe space but keep the whole tree per backup.
>
> It is not published yet because I need to rework it for the case, the
> destination is on a different drive or server and (specially for me) a
> solution if the local backup is synced with a mirror. In this case it is
> important to recreate the links at the destination as links too, which
> is not solved yet.
>
> I send you my code directly via mail due to some time limitation. There
> is no license on the code by me. Feel free to use this as inspiration.

The essence of my code is not that different, though it is of course 
embedded in python and hooked up with the current backup of the Data.fs

The branch is here:
https://svn.plone.org/svn/collective/buildout/collective.recipe.backup/branches/maurits-blobs



-- 
Maurits van Rees
Web App Programmer at Zest Software: http://zestsoftware.nl
Personal website: http://maurits.vanrees.org/


From sdupton at gmail.com  Thu Aug 25 20:45:08 2011
From: sdupton at gmail.com (Sean Upton)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 14:45:08 -0600
Subject: [Product-Developers] plone.app.jquerytools,
 disabled scripts in js registry, profile deps: stop the madness!
Message-ID: <CANjV-2NFuwQaHy7pLUORpO48hMd5jegLr=3xdCWj6Spv3ARFiA@mail.gmail.com>

Okay, so I am trying to figure my way through this one with my sanity intact:

I am writing add-ons that depend on scripts that plone.app.jquerytools
ships but disables by default (e.g. dateinput, validator).  So I
figure, not a problem -- my jsregistry.xml enables and orders them.
But installing ANY other add-on that depends on plone.app.jquerytools
(like Dexterity or anything depending on it -- half the known universe
soon) stomps on my registry settings and restores the default.

It seems I (and any other product author) who wants to safely enable
these jquery tools plugins will be forced to bundle our own copies to
ensure they are always enabled in the respective resource registry,
which yields the possibility of multiple products installing
(duplicate or incompatible) versions of the same script.  So we trade
one problem for another.

This seems an intractable problem for every possible type of add-on
(including site-specific policy products).  It effectively means you
have to re-install the js registry profile bits for your specific
product in portal_setup manually after the installation of almost any
other add-on.

Ideas?

Sean

From m.van.rees at zestsoftware.nl  Thu Aug 25 22:52:37 2011
From: m.van.rees at zestsoftware.nl (Maurits van Rees)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 00:52:37 +0200
Subject: [Product-Developers] collective.recipe.backup: support for
 collective.recipe.filestorage checked in
In-Reply-To: <1314131738093-6717660.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <1314121350992-6717142.post@n2.nabble.com>
 <1314131738093-6717660.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <j36jnm$lk9$1@dough.gmane.org>

Hi,

Op 23-08-11 22:35, Karl Johan Kleist schreef:
> It just occurred to me, that it's probably not very smart to use the get_fs()
> helper function in restore_main(). We can probably not assume that the
> filestorage file already exists. So I've restored the old code in
> restore_main()

As you indicate here, this might need a bit more thinking, as now a 
restore could place the filestorage in a wrong location.

Also, collective.recipe.filestorage offers more ways to name the 
additional filestorages and I guess your current code only handles the 
default location.  Fair enough, really, but I wonder if we can do better.

Also, it occured to me that these additional filestorages may come with 
their own blobstorages (oh joy...).  That may need a bit of thinking too.

I haved moved your code to a new branch:
https://svn.plone.org/svn/collective/buildout/collective.recipe.backup/branches/kleist-recipe-filestorage

I have also reverted those changes on trunk.

Biggest reason is that this clears the way for merging back my long 
overdue blobstorage backup support branch and do a release.  We can work 
on collective.recipe.filestorage later.

Thanks for your contribution.


-- 
Maurits van Rees
Web App Programmer at Zest Software: http://zestsoftware.nl
Personal website: http://maurits.vanrees.org/


From steve at dcn.org  Thu Aug 25 23:01:17 2011
From: steve at dcn.org (Steve McMahon)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 16:01:17 -0700
Subject: [Product-Developers] plone.app.jquerytools,
 disabled scripts in js registry, profile deps: stop the madness!
In-Reply-To: <CANjV-2NFuwQaHy7pLUORpO48hMd5jegLr=3xdCWj6Spv3ARFiA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANjV-2NFuwQaHy7pLUORpO48hMd5jegLr=3xdCWj6Spv3ARFiA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAOqzbggjcOPb6fnOQOb4KHeYJ6V58ksh85yHtfoDTuaq2nuQNg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Sean,

Why don't you go ahead and open a ticket for this (component: javascript). I
think you're right that this is a mess, and a ticket will give us a place to
work through a better solution.

Steve

On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Sean Upton <sdupton at gmail.com> wrote:

> Okay, so I am trying to figure my way through this one with my sanity
> intact:
>
> I am writing add-ons that depend on scripts that plone.app.jquerytools
> ships but disables by default (e.g. dateinput, validator).  So I
> figure, not a problem -- my jsregistry.xml enables and orders them.
> But installing ANY other add-on that depends on plone.app.jquerytools
> (like Dexterity or anything depending on it -- half the known universe
> soon) stomps on my registry settings and restores the default.
>
> It seems I (and any other product author) who wants to safely enable
> these jquery tools plugins will be forced to bundle our own copies to
> ensure they are always enabled in the respective resource registry,
> which yields the possibility of multiple products installing
> (duplicate or incompatible) versions of the same script.  So we trade
> one problem for another.
>
> This seems an intractable problem for every possible type of add-on
> (including site-specific policy products).  It effectively means you
> have to re-install the js registry profile bits for your specific
> product in portal_setup manually after the installation of almost any
> other add-on.
>
> Ideas?
>
> Sean
> _______________________________________________
> Product-Developers mailing list
> Product-Developers at lists.plone.org
> https://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/plone-product-developers
>
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From m.van.rees at zestsoftware.nl  Thu Aug 25 23:15:15 2011
From: m.van.rees at zestsoftware.nl (Maurits van Rees)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 01:15:15 +0200
Subject: [Product-Developers] ANN: collective.recipe.backup now backs up
	blobstorage
Message-ID: <j36l24$slg$1@dough.gmane.org>

Hi

I finally released collective.recipe.backup 2.0 which now backs up 
blobstorage.  The backup is done using rsync and hard links to save 
space amd make backups faster.  On Windows you probably want a simple 
copy; do that by giving the recipe the option use_rsync = false.

Sensible defaults should still be in place, so usually you should not 
have to add any options to start backing up your blobstorage.  But 
options are available if needed.  I cleaned up the documentation.

See http://pypi.python.org/pypi/collective.recipe.backup

Feedback and fixes are welcome.  The code is in the collective:
https://svn.plone.org/svn/collective/buildout/collective.recipe.backup/trunk

Happy backupping!


-- 
Maurits van Rees
Web App Programmer at Zest Software: http://zestsoftware.nl
Personal website: http://maurits.vanrees.org/


From davidglick at groundwire.org  Thu Aug 25 23:16:24 2011
From: davidglick at groundwire.org (David Glick)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 16:16:24 -0700
Subject: [Product-Developers] collective.recipe.backup: support for
 collective.recipe.filestorage checked in
In-Reply-To: <j36jnm$lk9$1@dough.gmane.org>
References: <1314121350992-6717142.post@n2.nabble.com>
 <1314131738093-6717660.post@n2.nabble.com> <j36jnm$lk9$1@dough.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <4E56D7C8.1050802@groundwire.org>

On 8/25/11 3:52 PM, Maurits van Rees wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Op 23-08-11 22:35, Karl Johan Kleist schreef:
>> It just occurred to me, that it's probably not very smart to use the get_fs()
>> helper function in restore_main(). We can probably not assume that the
>> filestorage file already exists. So I've restored the old code in
>> restore_main()
> As you indicate here, this might need a bit more thinking, as now a
> restore could place the filestorage in a wrong location.
>
> Also, collective.recipe.filestorage offers more ways to name the
> additional filestorages and I guess your current code only handles the
> default location.  Fair enough, really, but I wonder if we can do better.
>
> Also, it occured to me that these additional filestorages may come with
> their own blobstorages (oh joy...).  That may need a bit of thinking too.
>
> I haved moved your code to a new branch:
> https://svn.plone.org/svn/collective/buildout/collective.recipe.backup/branches/kleist-recipe-filestorage
>
> I have also reverted those changes on trunk.
>
> Biggest reason is that this clears the way for merging back my long
> overdue blobstorage backup support branch and do a release.  We can work
> on collective.recipe.filestorage later.
>
> Thanks for your contribution.
>
FWIW, the in-house backup script that we use with 
collective.recipe.filestorage reads zope.conf and/or zeo.conf to figure 
out what storages exist and where they are. It's pretty dumb about the 
parsing though; just some regexes.
David


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 Web Developer
 davidglick at groundwire.org
 206.286.1235x32

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From jean.jordaan at gmail.com  Fri Aug 26 08:13:06 2011
From: jean.jordaan at gmail.com (Jean Jordaan)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 15:13:06 +0700
Subject: [Product-Developers] plone.app.jquerytools,
 disabled scripts in js registry, profile deps: stop the madness!
In-Reply-To: <CANjV-2NFuwQaHy7pLUORpO48hMd5jegLr=3xdCWj6Spv3ARFiA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANjV-2NFuwQaHy7pLUORpO48hMd5jegLr=3xdCWj6Spv3ARFiA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJqnznCjheqybHS5DXM309wYpJAa+jv-RpGiA+6_5eM=L8tPuA@mail.gmail.com>

On 8/26/11, Sean Upton <sdupton at gmail.com> wrote:
> This seems an intractable problem for every possible type of add-on
> (including site-specific policy products).  It effectively means you
> have to re-install the js registry profile bits for your specific
> product in portal_setup manually after the installation of almost any
> other add-on.

Potentially stomping on the ones that stomped on you?
Hairy indeed.

-- 
jean                                              . .. .... //\\\oo///\\

From dominikruf at gmail.com  Fri Aug 26 10:53:33 2011
From: dominikruf at gmail.com (Dominik)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 03:53:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Product-Developers] How to override MembershipTool (or how to
	use custom portraits)
In-Reply-To: <j2g1eu$pq$1@dough.gmane.org>
References: <1313437326578-6688902.post@n2.nabble.com>
 <j2g1eu$pq$1@dough.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <1314356013657-6728255.post@n2.nabble.com>

this works thanks

--
View this message in context: http://plone.293351.n2.nabble.com/How-to-override-MembershipTool-or-how-to-use-custom-portraits-tp6688902p6728255.html
Sent from the Product Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

From sdupton at gmail.com  Fri Aug 26 17:40:52 2011
From: sdupton at gmail.com (Sean Upton)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 11:40:52 -0600
Subject: [Product-Developers] plone.app.jquerytools,
 disabled scripts in js registry, profile deps: stop the madness!
In-Reply-To: <CAOqzbggjcOPb6fnOQOb4KHeYJ6V58ksh85yHtfoDTuaq2nuQNg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANjV-2NFuwQaHy7pLUORpO48hMd5jegLr=3xdCWj6Spv3ARFiA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAOqzbggjcOPb6fnOQOb4KHeYJ6V58ksh85yHtfoDTuaq2nuQNg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANjV-2PHX4CdbbSTPu2dG_rxqREc-SYxu0HaLv3XNtqQEMzdQA@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Steve McMahon <steve at dcn.org> wrote:
> Hi Sean,
>
> Why don't you go ahead and open a ticket for this (component: javascript). I
> think you're right that this is a mess, and a ticket will give us a place to
> work through a better solution.

https://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/12147  or
http://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/12147

While this problem is particularly interesting/frustrating for
framework JavaScript.  I keep thinking that it is going to warrant
some modification to the setup process itself (more generally, it is a
GenericSetup problem).  Partitioning the profile dependency graph into
levels (visualize the digraph of dependencies as a trellis) could
provide cues of when already-installed dependency profiles should not
have an import step re-run (because a higher-level downstream add-on
has already customized over that step).

I would bet this will eventually warrant a ticket for GenericSetup in
launchpad too.

Sean

From hector.velarde at gmail.com  Fri Aug 26 19:39:32 2011
From: hector.velarde at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?H=E9ctor_Velarde?=)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 16:39:32 -0300
Subject: [Product-Developers] Viewlets on IHTMLHead viewlets mgr are
 updated on Unauthorized object.
In-Reply-To: <0F9BC352-62CD-4F9E-B3A4-3A63130A9922@alterway.fr>
References: <0F9BC352-62CD-4F9E-B3A4-3A63130A9922@alterway.fr>
Message-ID: <4E57F674.8020207@gmail.com>

fixed! https://bitbucket.org/simplesconsultoria/sc.social.like/changesets

now we only need ?rico to make the new release ;-)

thank you, and best regards!

H?ctor Velarde

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From sdupton at gmail.com  Mon Aug 29 17:49:42 2011
From: sdupton at gmail.com (Sean Upton)
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 11:49:42 -0600
Subject: [Product-Developers] plone.app.jquerytools,
 disabled scripts in js registry, profile deps: stop the madness!
In-Reply-To: <4E5971EA.3040800@gmail.com>
References: <CANjV-2NFuwQaHy7pLUORpO48hMd5jegLr=3xdCWj6Spv3ARFiA@mail.gmail.com>
 <4E5971EA.3040800@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANjV-2Nkpdm0LJxWZeVPTjbEsPpabgYDQLv09ATHJvzz2OmazQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 4:38 PM, David Glick <dglick at gmail.com> wrote:
> It sounds like we need to add support for a flag in jsregistry.xml to
> indicate that a resource should be added in a disabled state if it's not
> present, but remain enabled if it is already present and enabled. This could
> then be used for these optional scripts bundled with p.a.jquerytools.

Perhaps, instead of an additional flag/attribute, it makes sense to
allow a value of "None" as a valid choice -- conveying ambivalence and
deference to previously existing values.  (True|False|None) would all
be legal enabled attribute values in jsregistry.xml, each with
distinct meaning.

Products.ResourceRegistries.tools.JSRegistry.updateScript()
conveniently skips modification on a keyword argument of enabled=None
-- useful, but insufficient.  I want to update the handler to treat
the enabled="None" (or "none") as: (a) enabled=False [1] on initial
import attempt, and (b) as enabled=None for
JSRegistryTool.updateScript() [2].

Soon, I may try to implement this on respective
Products.ResourceRegistries and plone.app.jquerytools branches.  I
will ping plone-developers for review once I do.

Sean

Notes:

[1] AFAICT, one could safely store enabled=None on a Resource object
(as the getEnabled() accessor casts to a bool), but this is likely an
untested road to hell.  I do not want to store "None" -- just use that
word as a semantically distinct way to specify intent in
jsregistry.xml in products like plone.app.jquerytools.

[2] updateScript() method called from an except block when install
fails (dupe/existing record):
http://dev.plone.org/plone/browser/ResourceRegistries/trunk/Products/ResourceRegistries/exportimport/resourceregistry.py#L150
 (alecm's comment for this block r10486:  "this feels dirty too" --
yep).

From torkel at reamedia.no  Tue Aug 30 11:24:12 2011
From: torkel at reamedia.no (Torkel Lyng)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 13:24:12 +0200
Subject: [Product-Developers] Custom traversal view?
Message-ID: <2055F298-A7DF-4C27-8DBC-116F0E14E452@reamedia.no>

I'm trying to add a view for IPloneSiteRoot that changes the default traversal. I'm absolutely not sure on how to do this, so perhaps I'm getting in totally wrong.

What I am trying to achieve is something like this scenario:

I want to enter "http://myhost/site/@@custom/further/down/the/path" in the browser, @@custom should look up an object and traverse 'further/down/the/path'. What I've down
this far is creating a browser view with implements zone.traversing.interfaces.ITraversable (def traverse(self, name, further_path)). When my traverse method is called the
name is set to 'absolute_url' and further path is nothing. I want to have custom stay in the traversal path for subsequent requests (it does different things with the request object),
how can I achieve such behavior?


From torkel at reamedia.no  Tue Aug 30 11:47:27 2011
From: torkel at reamedia.no (Torkel Lyng)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 13:47:27 +0200
Subject: [Product-Developers] Custom traversal view?
In-Reply-To: <2055F298-A7DF-4C27-8DBC-116F0E14E452@reamedia.no>
References: <2055F298-A7DF-4C27-8DBC-116F0E14E452@reamedia.no>
Message-ID: <0D25644D-9B57-49D3-9A16-BFAFD30F393F@reamedia.no>


On Aug 30, 2011, at 1:24 PM, Torkel Lyng wrote:

> I'm trying to add a view for IPloneSiteRoot that changes the default traversal. I'm absolutely not sure on how to do this, so perhaps I'm getting in totally wrong.
> 
> What I am trying to achieve is something like this scenario:
> 
> I want to enter "http://myhost/site/@@custom/further/down/the/path" in the browser, @@custom should look up an object and traverse 'further/down/the/path'. What I've down
> this far is creating a browser view with implements zone.traversing.interfaces.ITraversable (def traverse(self, name, further_path)). When my traverse method is called the
> name is set to 'absolute_url' and further path is nothing. I want to have custom stay in the traversal path for subsequent requests (it does different things with the request object),
> how can I achieve such behavior?
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Product-Developers mailing list
> Product-Developers at lists.plone.org
> https://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/plone-product-developers

I found my way out of it ? using IPublishTraverse instead of ITraverse seems to give me a solution.

From tommy.yu at auckland.ac.nz  Tue Aug 30 23:49:54 2011
From: tommy.yu at auckland.ac.nz (Tommy Yu)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 11:49:54 +1200
Subject: [Product-Developers] OAuth provider support in Plone via PAS add-on
Message-ID: <4E5D7722.1000909@auckland.ac.nz>

Greetings,

Noting the lack of OAuth provider support within and around Plone (with the only references on this was something found on the Plone core developers list back in early 2008), I decided to get my hands dirty and wrote a PAS plug-in that provides authentication via OAuth.  I don't know if the Plone core developers might be interested in this, so I thought the add-ons community might be a better place to throw this around.  Anyway, I have put what I have so far available on github at:

https://github.com/metatoaster/pmr2.oauth

This is mostly created to demonstrate that OAuth can be added to Plone and be plugged into PAS.  Still very new, thus lacking some vital features and is probably dangerous due to lack of scope limitation.  Why?  Once a valid access token is generated with the user's credentials and used to access resources in Plone, the full set of permissions that the user possess will be granted, which can result in bad things (TM).  For the mean time please do not use it on your production sites, even if its danger may be mitigated by lack of usable UI to add any consumers (as if that's any consolation).

I hope to make this safer to use by adding in scope such that the content owner will be notified on which set of URIs/service the consumer is permitted to access (and more test cases to back this up), and make this extensible/configurable so people who might want to build/provide web service type access to (customized) resources on Plone can be done with ease.  Of course actually complete important features such that consumers can be added and allow users to revoke unwanted authenticated tokens with a couple simple clicks.

Further information on what this can do right now (and intend to do) can be found in the readme file within the subdirectories and the test cases.  If you have any comment/question/critique against this attempt to allow Plone to authenticate via OAuth please don't hesitate to reply.

Regards,
Tommy.

From jonstahl at gmail.com  Wed Aug 31 04:01:21 2011
From: jonstahl at gmail.com (Jon Stahl)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 21:01:21 -0700
Subject: [Product-Developers] OAuth provider support in Plone via PAS
	add-on
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Hi Tommy!

This sounds like it would be a fantastic add-on product for Plone!
Thanks for tackling this.  When you have it to a point where you think
it's production-ready, please do package it up and create a listing
for it at http://plone.org/products so that others can easily find it
and install it via buildout!

cheers,
jon

On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Tommy Yu <tommy.yu at auckland.ac.nz> wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> Noting the lack of OAuth provider support within and around Plone (with the
> only references on this was something found on the Plone core developers
> list back in early 2008), I decided to get my hands dirty and wrote a PAS
> plug-in that provides authentication via OAuth. ?I don't know if the Plone
> core developers might be interested in this, so I thought the add-ons
> community might be a better place to throw this around. ?Anyway, I have put
> what I have so far available on github at:
>
> https://github.com/metatoaster/pmr2.oauth
>
> This is mostly created to demonstrate that OAuth can be added to Plone and
> be plugged into PAS. ?Still very new, thus lacking some vital features and
> is probably dangerous due to lack of scope limitation. ?Why? ?Once a valid
> access token is generated with the user's credentials and used to access
> resources in Plone, the full set of permissions that the user possess will
> be granted, which can result in bad things (TM). ?For the mean time please
> do not use it on your production sites, even if its danger may be mitigated
> by lack of usable UI to add any consumers (as if that's any consolation).
>
> I hope to make this safer to use by adding in scope such that the content
> owner will be notified on which set of URIs/service the consumer is
> permitted to access (and more test cases to back this up), and make this
> extensible/configurable so people who might want to build/provide web
> service type access to (customized) resources on Plone can be done with
> ease. ?Of course actually complete important features such that consumers
> can be added and allow users to revoke unwanted authenticated tokens with a
> couple simple clicks.
>
> Further information on what this can do right now (and intend to do) can be
> found in the readme file within the subdirectories and the test cases. ?If
> you have any comment/question/critique against this attempt to allow Plone
> to authenticate via OAuth please don't hesitate to reply.
>
> Regards,
> Tommy.
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