[Product-Developers] Re: How can we win the battle for developers?
rover at menttes.com
Wed May 7 18:58:52 UTC 2008
Hedley Roos wrote:
>> A serious problem we have in our company, menttes work just with
>> Plone, is how expensive is to add/train new developers. Is very hard
>> to find python or zope developers out there. So, we've to train every
>> new person in all the stack, and this is a big investment for a small
> I think 6 months is par for training an existing developer to be a good
> Plone developer. I have been pleasantly surprised though by a friend who
> needed only 3/4 months before he could deliver good products.
> But... it is a bit long. Plone 3 worsens the curve (sorry, I know we
> have component architecture and it is more correct, but it is true.)
> At Upfront we're all subcontractors. We all had to get up to speed
> mostly by ourselves and show that we can deliver. That means the risk
> run by Upfront is smaller. The flipside is that this model only works
> for people fresh out of college, or people in mid-career wanting to
> change careers. And they need the right personality for Plone :)
> I honestly think the only way to "win" is to make Plone easier to
> customize. I don't think marketing will help much, although I did notice
You are right, marketing and promotion won't solve the learning curve
I'm just saying that marketing and promotion probably let us work with
new people and with some luck reach other people than people fresh out
of college or people in mid-career. I believe that if we do enough
promotion, there are more chance to find people with python/zope
knowledge and you also could get more companies investing in Plone
development, i would like to see a comparison between companies in
plone.net vs contributors.
With more contributors, i would expect to have more improvements in the
same time, more improvements could make the technology more friendly
faster, for example and if that's the case.
Many implications and more of them are based on intuitive ideas, sorry
i've no proofs for any of them, just a feeling. You can believe or not
and the discussions will be always interesting for me :D
> Limi on some panel of 10 which made Slashdot's front page. I'm sure he
> spreads the word.
Same happens with most of the people on this mailing list, i'm sure
they're working hard to make plone easier and the great thing in a free
software is you can join them.
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