Plone - Community Plumbing - or Just Content Managment !

[Paul Everitt]

Speaking of best-of-breed and integration, at least within the Python  
platform, that's what Repoze is trying to do:

   http://www.repoze.org/

Chris McDonough, Tres Seaver, and others are trying to make Zope "play  
nice" with modern Python web technologies (WSGI, Paste, eggs, etc.)

As a practical example, we use Zope/Plone, Roundup (issue tracking),  
pyblosxom (blogging), Mailman, and direct filesystem services....all  
running inside mod_wsgi.  All have the same WSGI "middleware".  For  
example, the Deliverance "theme" is an HTML file used untouched across  
all those different frameworks.

I think the future can show that some Web 2.0 services (e.g. tagging)  
could move out of the individual WSGI applications (Zope/Plone) and  
into the WSGI pipeline, in some way.

--Paul

On Dec 12, 2007, at 3:24 AM, Peter Hollands wrote:

> Thanks everyone for some thoughtful replies.
>
> I'm beginning to come round to the view, that perhaps the best way  
> forward is
> "Integration of best of breed" rather than Plone trying to do  
> everything.
>
> Alex Limi says in the foreward to Martin Aspeli's book ....
>
> "Speaking of which, how does the future of Plone look like in 2007?  
> Web
> development is now in a state we could only have dreamt about five  
> years ago—
> and the rise of numerous great Python web frameworks, and even non- 
> Python
> solutions like Ruby on Rails has made it possible for the Plone  
> community to
> focus on what it excels at: content and document management,  
> multilingual
> content, and solving real problems for real companies—and having fun  
> in the
> process. Before these frameworks existed, people would often try to  
> do things
> with Plone that it was not built or designed to do—and we are very  
> happy that
> solutions now exist that cater to these audiences, so we can focus  
> on our
> core expertise. Choice is good, and you should use the right tool  
> for the job
> at hand."
>
> (The full context of that quote is at
> http://limi.net/articles/foreword-to-professional-plone-development/
> )
>
> And of course, it not just about other software platforms anymore.  
> It's about
> the fact that so much of our world is now represented in datacenters  
> on the
> Internet. We are interested in connecting services not software.
>
> The world seems to be moving towards service orientated  
> architectures (SOA)
> and using SOAP, REST, ATOM PUB to integrated large blogs of  
> functionality
> from different platforms. The world of Service Orientated  
> Architecture (SOA)
> will be a comfortable area for python / zope programmers. It's an  
> object
> orientated world. The marketing folks are using words like  
> "mashups", "data
> mashup" and "Business Mashups".
>
> If you are new to this world of mashups, then try .....
> http://www.serena.com/mashups/tv.html?bcpid=1321279998&bclid=1323277251&bctid=1328185438
> (7 minutes)
> Bear with the sales tone for the first two minutes, it gets better.
>
> Sounds like NorthWest One has done some great work on a mashup with
> SalesForce.com. I see it listed on appexchange.com at ....
> http://www.salesforce.com/appexchange/detail_overview.jsp?id=a0330000002QFi8AAG
>
> Is there are a good "end user case study" of salesforce.com  
> integrated with
> Plone ? Is any non-profit on this list using this integration ? How  
> is it
> going ?
>
> As Paul Roleand said, the Plone community is an incredibly talented  
> group.
> I suspect that this team is already very acomplished at mashups.
> We could all probably benefit from publisizing more widely  existing  
> Plone
> mashup case studies and the opportunities before us.
>
> Peter H
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