[NGO] Re: Re: Re: Plone FAQ for CMS evaluators

[Steve McMahon]

Hi Limi (note I've taken this off list),

Yes, I use Mailman, managing an install that's handling something over 
100 lists. And, I won't defend its interface. But, for the rest, what 
are you comparing it with? Last I looked (which was in the 2.x series), 
Mailboxer had lifted some of Mailman's bounce detection code, but 
required manual management of the bounces and had next-to no filtering 
capabilities.

But, my real point was: do we really want to suck all this (mail 
reception, filtering, bounce processing, confirmation, aggregation, 
digesting ...) into the Zope/Plone instance, or would it be better to be 
loosely coupled with external components?

Steve

Alexander Limi wrote:
> On Tue, 04 Jul 2006 13:57:07 -0700, Steve McMahon <steve at dcn.org> wrote:
> 
>> Wouldn't it be much better to integrate with an external list server 
>> (e.g., Mailman) than to try to reproduce the functionality (including 
>> bounce processing, confirmations, personalization, digesting and queue 
>> management) inside Plone? Wouldn't we rather have those functions 
>> loosely coupled?
> 
> Have you ever *used* Mailman? ;)
> 
> Until the mythical Mailman 3 rewrite happens, it's not much of a loss. 
> Right now, the single most unusable tool I have to deal with on a 
> day-to-day basis is Mailman. Its bounce processing sucks, its blocking 
> abilities suck, the list management options are horrendous and pretty 
> much unusable. Oh, and the code is so dense that even if it's Python, 
> it's impossible to change anything.
> 
> What do we miss out on again? :)
> 
> 

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Steve McMahon
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