[NGO] improving the plone.org site

Paul Everitt paul at zeapartners.org
Mon Jul 3 06:51:02 UTC 2006


In general, I'd say you shouldn't factor plone.net into your thinking  
and just produce artifacts on plone.org.

--Paul

On Jul 3, 2006, at 2:42 AM, Jon Stahl wrote:

>
> On Jun 30, 2006, at 11:02 AM, Ken Wasetis at ContextualCorp.com wrote:
>
>>
>> When we had a break-out session at the 2005 Plone Symposium in New  
>> Orleans, we had a small group that focused on what the Plone.net  
>> site would look like (and that site looks nice, but since everyone  
>> is busy, doesn't seem to keep moving at a great pace.)  I still  
>> think that Plone.net is probably the place for the prospect/ 
>> manager to go to find out about Plone, but that Plone.org  
>> shouldn't freak-out a non-techie at first glance.  It should have  
>> more of a basic look to the site that techies may appreciate,  
>> while directing NGO/business users who are just checking out Plone  
>> to the proper resource (which I think will be Plone.net, if we  
>> continue on the path of one site for marketing and one for  the  
>> developer community.)
>
>> A lot of folks don't even know about the Plone.net site, so I  
>> thought I'd mention that this is in the works before everyone  
>> starts designing the Plone.org site in a way that overlaps too  
>> much with that effort.  The thought is that there is still a need  
>> for more of a development site - that plone.org will hopefully  
>> direct the right people to .net, but keep the developers from  
>> pulling hair out from not being able to get to the kind of content  
>> they have grown accustomed to getting on the .org site.
>
>
> This has indeed been this vision.
>
> The problem is that Plone.net seems to have fallen a bit short of  
> getting into a launchable state due, if I recall my conversations  
> with Paul correctly, to insufficient follow-through on work that  
> folks promised to do.  (Hey, life is busy.)
>
> The marketing team also seems to have fallen into disarray/ 
> inactivity.  (Please, someone tell me I'm wrong!)
>
> I have to say, though, it is causing me to question whether we  
> really have the resources necessary to sustain two community  
> sites.  I'd like to believe that we do, but evidence over the past  
> year suggests otherwise. :-(
>
> Paul, perhaps you can outline the tasks that need to be done to get  
> Plone.net launched, and maybe there are some folks here who can  
> step up to the plate to help you make it happen.
>
> If not, then maybe it is worthwhile to re-open the conversation  
> about how to make Plone.org better serve folks "checking Plone out"  
> as well as more committed Plone developers.  I don't think that's  
> theoretically impossible, although there may be some logistical  
> barriers.
>
> best,
> jon
>
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