[Framework-Team] FWT meeting attendance stats

[Nathan Van Gheem]

When I wrote the email, I forgot I might be on jury duty that day--there is
a possibility I won't be able to make it to the meeting :(


On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 3:28 AM, Giacomo Spettoli <giacomo.spettoli at gmail.com
> wrote:

>  On 07/04/2014 06:55 PM, Nathan Van Gheem wrote:
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> On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Giacomo Spettoli <
> giacomo.spettoli at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>  While we can all agree that Rok as made a good job so far, I think we
>> have to fully realize what he just said: the main author of the front-end
>> of plone5 is leaving the project! This is even more dangerous since the
>> front-end should have been (and maybe will be) the "shimmering thing" to
>> attract once more new customers to Plone.
>>
>> We ended up in this shitty situation since we, as a community, made the
>> big mistake of putting all our energy on just very few people.
>>
> How is this avoided though? Do we just not do the work? Rok did everything
> he could to get more people involved--just not much interest. Or if there
> was, that interest wasn't sustained.
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> This is not a technical problem, the FWT cannot fix it. It's more of a
> management matter. But...I wrote the original mail on Friday so I was
> polemic pointlessly.
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>> This said, I think that all the FWT members that consider them self still
>> active should really try hard to be online this Tuesday to discuss the plan
>> to reach p5. Here some questions that need an answer:
>>
>> - What do we do now? How can we organize the work for not being stuck in
>> this situation again?
>>
> FWIW, I'll be taking ownership of mockup...
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> Excellent!
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>>  - how much man power do we have? Should we continue based on the
>> volunteers' effort only or should we try to involve more the companies that
>> may have the strength to finish this?
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>   - Should we collect all the info and try to finish mockup? or should we
>> start from scratch basing our effort on the latest best frameworks
>> (Angular, React...xyz)
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> I'm sorry, but the idea of starting from scratch here seems ridiculous.
> Some of mockup uses React. Mockup isn't forcing the use of any particular
> js tech necessarily.
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> Me too I think there's no time for starting from scratch obviously. And it
> would be a waste of energy/money.
> My intent was to put all the options on the table and so I was being
> provocative on purpose ;)
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>  We're not that far off. Ramon and I are organizing a sprint around the
> idea of finishing up mockup integration with plone.
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> Nice, so the meeting of tomorrow will be a perfect occasion to collect all
> the needs and see if somebody else can jump in and help you two.
> For example, at the time, I already offered my help for improving the
> documentation and make it fit into the current doc base.
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>>  - should we involve the board in this discussion? (I think yes,
>> definitely!)
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>> Hope to see all of you guys online thuesday to discuss all this :)
>>
> I'll be on.
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> Perfect, thanks!
>
> cheers,
> Giacomo
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>>  cheers,
>> Giacomo
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>>
>> On 06/24/2014 07:14 PM, Roel Bruggink wrote:
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>> Thank you for everything so far, Rok.
>> Come join us for some beer if you are in the Netherlands again! ;)
>>
>>  -Roel
>>
>>
>>  On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 7:58 AM, Rok Garbas <rok at garbas.si> wrote:
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>>> hi guys,
>>>
>>> last month i've been unactive since i was on a quest to learn surfing
>>> (some
>>> call this vacation). with july i'm starting to work in berlin in a
>>> position
>>> which does not involve any plone development, therefore i would like to
>>> step
>>> down as a framework team member since i will have very little or no time
>>> for
>>> plone in comming year.
>>>
>>> thank you for all the patience you had with me.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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