[Framework-Team] PLIP 20144

[Johannes Raggam]

The decision was made because we don't want to have Plone 5 beta further
delayed and some were opting for a feature freeze. The changes in PLIP
20144 might be small and the positive impact big, but there could be
some negative impact: UI wise (although the default behavior isn't
changed), performance wise (you already proofed, that tests run the same
speed with or without folderish base types) or memory wise.

Chances are, that beta is delayed anyways. IMO we could discuss this
again at the meeting next week.
I want to invite you for the FWT meeting on 2014-12-09, 21:00 CET to
explain your standpoint.

FWT, Everyone OK with that?

Best, Johannes




On Mon, 2014-12-01 at 13:13 +0100, Philip Bauer wrote:
> Dear Framework-team,
> 
> I got the message that https://dev.plone.org/ticket/20144 should be moved to 5.1, which is generally ok by me but I can't help wondering why. 
> 
> The implementation, upgrade-steps and tests are all done. Working with folderish dexterity-types in real projects has been tested by many developers for quite some time. What do you think needs more work or improvements for it to be included in Plone 5? I even migrated the test for plone.app.contentmenu (https://github.com/plone/plone.app.contentmenu/pull/8) to work with AT and DX to make sure nothing changes regarding the UI. 
> 
> I'm more than willing to put in more time if it means having this in Plone 5.0 and not 5.1 (which will be at least a year form now). I think the point when we move from AT to DX is also the right moment to switch from itemish to folderish.
> 
> Also: If the -1 stands: You did not answer the question about the alternative folderish profile.
> 
> Philip
> 
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