[Framework-Team] Middleware render on Plone 5

Martin Aspeli optilude+lists at gmail.com
Tue Oct 1 19:42:39 UTC 2013

On 1 October 2013 17:06, Laurence Rowe <l at lrowe.co.uk> wrote:

> Diazo is only tested with the lxml HTML parser, I don't know what would
> happen if you started parsing as XML.

Also: the thing we are rendering includes user-editable content. That's not
going always be XML.

> Laurence
> On 1 October 2013 08:22, Giacomo Spettoli <giacomo.spettoli at gmail.com>wrote:
>> +1, I totally agree with this approach. I think it's the natural
>> evolution of rendering contents since diazo came out. Actually I already
>> thought on this for a while, and my idea was to switch to an xml output but
>> that would be hard to achieve and the advantages would be very few. So html
>> (5) it's fine too.
>> Giacomo
>> On Oct 1, 2013 12:05 PM, "Martin Aspeli" <optilude+lists at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> On 1 October 2013 14:03, Ramon Navarro Bosch <ramon.nb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Since we are moving to Diazo I have the bad feeling that rendering
>>>> twice the page is a waste of energy and a possible missunderstanding for
>>>> integrators / developers ( we will have the frontend, the backend of
>>>> widgets, the native rendering ... )
>>>> During these days in Brazil, we've been discussing if it's possible to
>>>> change the main_template to export the structure of plone instead of a
>>>> rendered page, different sections with the viewlets, with the portlets, the
>>>> content, .... and on diazo rules it would be much easier to define the
>>>> rules. As right now is the moment to discuss about this subject(diazo theme
>>>> is really in early step and plone5 is a possible target to change this), my
>>>> idea is to talk about it today at FWT meeting if it's ok with you.
>>> So to check my understanding: you are saying main_template exposes
>>> something very simple, e.g. a pile of divs with sensible ids, and then
>>> Diazo makes it visually appealing?
>>> If so, that makes sense to me, at least once we have good "out of the
>>> box" Diazo themes.
>>> Martin
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