[Framework-Team] Plone 5 - rough roadmap

Laurence Rowe l at lrowe.co.uk
Tue Mar 16 22:06:32 UTC 2010


By my reading of the html 5 draft, it would seem conformant with the
(html5) spec to serve a document with a text/html Content-Type but an
XHTML Strict doctype.

On 16 March 2010 20:14, Alexander Limi <limi at plone.org> wrote:
> What does transitional doctype have to do with geolocation?
>
> (and XHTML STRICT is a problem, since it implies serving with XML MIME type,
> which IE doesn't handle, so that's unlikely to happen)
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Veda Williams <veda at groundwire.org> wrote:
>>
>> This brings up the question of when we're moving away from Transitional
>> DOCTYPE. Do we have a sense of when this will happen? I'm particularly keen
>> on knowing, as it opens up the door for us in terms of geolocation in the
>> next year or so.
>> Thanks,
>> - Veda
>>
>>
>> On Mar 16, 2010, at 12:40 PM, Alexander Limi wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 4:45 AM, Wichert Akkerman <wichert at wiggy.net>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'ld like to see a list of pros and cons of using HTML 5 as well. I am
>>> quite worried by the lack of proper support in existing browsers. None of
>>> them implement any of the existing HTML standards properly, and I fear that
>>> switching to the still unfinished HTML5 would be a several steps too far at
>>> this point in time.
>>
>> What parts in particular do you find are not working? Browsers that don't
>> have dedicated support for HTML5 will just treat those tags similar to div
>> elements (given an HTML5 shiv for styling to apply in IE), and most of the
>> new form-related enhancements are additive in nature.
>>
>> In general, HTML5 renders even on IE6, there isn't much magic here (but of
>> course it doesn't get any of the advantages either). HTML5 is mostly about
>> standardizing edge case behaviors and adding new abilities that will
>> gracefully degrade in older browsers — and then a few new tags like
>> video/audio (that are also relatively easy to make degrade) and structural
>> elements like article/footer, etc.
>>
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