[Framework-Team] Plone 4 - holidays are over :)

Eric Steele ems174 at psu.edu
Tue Jan 5 02:36:02 UTC 2010


On Jan 4, 2010, at 2:42 PM, Hanno Schlichting wrote:

> Heya.
> 
> Some of us have been busy over the holiday season and worked a bit
> more on Plone 4. The next question now is:
> 
> What is missing for a beta release?
> 
> I'll allow myself to give my opinion on that. Eric feel free to
> disagree, it's your call :)
> 
> In general I think Plone 4 is in good overall shape. But there's some
> blockers and critical issues noted in the bug tracker, which we need
> to address. I cleaned up Trac, so the 4.0 milestone only has tickets
> which are new to Plone 4.0 and should *all* be resolved before a
> release candidate. But here's the list of things that we need to
> tackle, before we can label a release "beta" in my opinion:
> 

...big snip...

> Looking at this there's still a ton to do. I'll leave it to Eric to
> figure out whom to "encourage" to get these things done ;-)
> 
> Hanno
> 


Thanks Hanno. I've been slogging through the changelogs trying to get caught up on what's been done over the last two weeks. Between whatever plague it was that I contracted in late December and the holidays, I've been mostly useless lately.

We're definitely close. I'd love to see a beta out by the 18th. I'll start rounding up people to get the worst of it cleaned up.

There's a lot above to address, so I'll just make a few points:
1) I've got people (including myself) on most of the user/groups stuff. Some of that needs to be aired out here, which I'll do tomorrow. 
2) We *really* need to move away from this whole "limi's theme" thing where Alex is the point-of-failure for anything template/design related. These are the most visible and obvious bugs and though they're not necessarily the most critical, they're the ones that leave the biggest impression of our "doneness". Denys has been picking up some the slack, but I'd like to find 1-3 more people willing to have at it.
3) /me clears his throat in witsch's general direction ;)
4) I'll talk with Steve about the JS issues. He's got quite a lot of tickets assigned at the moment, so I'm guessing he could use some help. Just a cursory look at the problem leads me to think there's a generally easy way of fixing it across the board, but also a nicer, one-less-page-load way that would be much more involved. 

And on points 2 and 4...what does the UI team do these days, do we still have one?

Oh, and you said...

> Personally I disagree with some of the choices mentioned in the PLIP
> (like shipping the unmaintained Clouseau, using eggtractor where
> buildout covers the same use-case today, turning on debug-mode in
> zope.conf, which should only be done via bin/instance fg vs.
> bin/instance console)

A quick poll in #plone-framework showed that myself and Messrs. Glick and Clark had never heard of bin/instance console. We need to document the crap out of that.

Eric






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