[Framework-Team] Re: PLIP Community Imapacts

Ross Patterson me at rpatterson.net
Sat Mar 14 00:07:09 UTC 2009


"Jon Stahl" <jon at onenw.org> writes:

>> Ross Patterson <me at rpatterson.net> writes:
>> 
>> > So far, much of the Plone 4 work has happened in narrower circles to
>> > free it up for prototyping, visioning, and imagining new approaches.
>> > This has been in part to isolate such a process from the paralysis
>> > that can come from discussion of edge cases or disagreements which
> are
>> > more proper and valuable at a later stage.  I raised a concern that
> as
>> > we start presenting this work more publicly, we should think about
>> > communicating and setting expectations for the impact of the
> backwards
>> > incompatible changes
>
> FWIW, Joel Burton raised some concerns along these lines as well when I
> spoke to him a couple of weeks ago. 
>
> We hashed around the idea (which I've also spoken of with Alex) of
> actually doing some sort of in-person "focus group" style event, where
> the P4 FWT could present some of the work-in-progress on Plone 4 (e.g.
> deliverance, dexterity, deco) to a small panel of selected community
> members (e.g. trusted "typical integrator" types) to get feedback not
> only on what we need to improve/document better but also how we should
> go about best explaining/framing the changes so they don't cause undue
> alarm.

I like that idea.  We, as developers, may be liable to miss the target
when trying to address community impact without such direction.

> I would be willing to do some work to help organize such an event, and
> I would not at all be surprised if the Foundation were willing to
> provide some underwriting (e.g. buy some plane tickets) but of course
> it is the participation/leadership of the FWT that would be the key to
> making it happen.

I'd like to hear about how wide interest in this might be.  Anyone?

> I could imagine this event, with fewer than 20 people, happening on
> the east coast USA sometime this summer (much depends on code
> readiness, I suppose).  One might potentially define this as a
> spiritual successor to the 2008 PSPS event, but I would avoid using
> the terms "strategic" "planning" or "summit" to describe it.  Maybe a
> "Plone 4 Framing Workshop." ;-)

East coast... summer... Ugh.  :)

The Californian,
Ross





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