[Framework-Team] Re: Plone 3.2 and 3.3 planning

Tom Lazar lists at tomster.org
Wed Sep 17 23:59:06 UTC 2008

if any of my previous conferences and sprints are an indicator, i just  
*know* that i won't be doing any actual fwt review work while in DC.  
but that's not important. review work is 'fleissarbeit' to use a nice  
german term here and can easily be done alone, whenever one can find  
some time. i'd like to use the time at the conference to discuss  
actual ideas/plips and to brainstorm the future fwt process, so i have  
no problem with a post-conference plip deadline (although, it  
shouldn't be too far after the conference as to not remove momentum  
from the ideas/plips that have been fleshed out during the conference.  
so, i guess, i'm +1 on wichert's deadline of one week after the  
conference. in fact, i think it's pretty much perfect...

just my $0.02

tom (who does indeed read the fwt via plain old email and thus  
sometimes misses any action on the list for a few days...) (i have a  
separate IMAP account for list traffic that i don't check as regularly  
as my personal account)

On 14.09.2008, at 13:32, Andreas Zeidler wrote:

> On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 13:16:40 +0200, Martin Aspeli <optilude at gmx.net>  
> wrote:
>> I'm not really interested in labouring this further.
> how about --- as a compromise --- set the deadline for turning in  
> PLIPs on friday october 10th, i.e. the last day of the conference?   
> the fwt will be busy discussing their processes during the first  
> couple of days anyway (hopefully).  at least personally i don't  
> expect to have time to review PLIPs while the conf is still  
> running.  that'll change once the sprint starts, though.  i haven't  
> really decided what i'm gonna work on, so i might as well set some  
> time to review and discuss PLIPs with the other members and  
> hopefully also with their authors.
>> In the future, I think it'd be good if we adopted a slightly more
>> consultative approach to setting deadlines for the process.
> +1
>> If the FWT were forced to be more actively
>> involved in the planning and setting of deadlienes in the first place
>> (How many have actually chimed into this thread? Only Andreas, I
>> think...), then they may also feel more responsible for meeting those
>> deadlines.
> +1 as well.  and, as a side note, i'm not sure if all members are  
> reading the fwt list as mail or via a news reader, but i suspect  
> some of them do the latter and might not have noticed the discussion  
> yet.  an easy "fix" for that might be to actually cc all members  
> directly on mails like wichert's announcement.  the schedule and  
> deadlines will affect the fwt members directly, so we should make  
> sure they know about them asap.
> cheers,
> andi
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