[Framework-Team] PLIP 238: Disable inline editing by default

Tom Lazar lists at tomster.org
Wed Oct 29 09:05:28 UTC 2008

On Oct 28, 2008, at 10:20 PM, Danny Bloemendaal wrote:

> Well, I am all in favor of having the UI fixed. Perhaps some of the  
> kss boys can do this. You need to have a hover event that shows a  
> button next to the widget (button can styles using css into a pencil  
> or something) and the click should trigger the edit mode.

i may be wrong, of course, but i doubt anybody of the framework team  
would have voted for plip238 if we had such an implementation ;-)

heck, if we had had a plip for the above scenario, that would have  
been voted in and wiggy probably would have never created #238.

IOW: i'd rather disable a suboptimal implementation of a potentially  
cool feature (#238) than wait for an uncertain amount of time until we  
have a UI fix for that feature.

> I think that jeroen vloothuis could do this in an afternoon. we  
> could ask him to help.

please do! if he comes up with something, i'd like to propose that we  
treat his patch as an 'alternative implementation of #238', i.e. if we  
think of #238 as 'fixing inline editing' then jeroen's patch could  
still become part of plone 3.3 instead of sticking it into a new plip  
(which would then obviously have to wait until 3.4)

just my $0.02,


> On 28 okt 2008, at 18:18, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
>> Previously Alan Runyan wrote:
>>> On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Alec Mitchell  
>>> <apm13 at columbia.edu> wrote:
>>>> Is it really that much work to fix the ui for starting an edit?  I
>>>> think there are a lot of people who like this feature, but are
>>>> frustrated by the UI.  Disabling it does nothing to fix that  
>>>> though,
>>>> it's just another regression to work around what many consider a  
>>>> real
>>>> UI bug.
>>> I agree.  Who owns this part of the UI?
>> No part of the UI is 'owned'. If someone has a better  
>> implementation I'm
>> all for that, but I don't have the right skillset to implement it.  
>> Until
>> then this PLIP improves the currently situation quite a bit.
>> Wichert.
>> --
>> Wichert Akkerman <wichert at wiggy.net>    It is simple to make things.
>> http://www.wiggy.net/                   It is hard to make things  
>> simple.
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