[Framework-Team] Re: WebDAV changes

Tom Lazar lists at tomster.org
Sun Feb 24 20:11:25 UTC 2008

for the record: the front-page issue mentioned by wiggy did *not*  
occur in my testing of the bundle itself, which suggests that it is  
perhaps caused by some side-effect of previous merges. and certainly  
outside the scope of the framework-team testing... (not that it  
actually matters now, though)


On 24.02.2008, at 20:56, Wichert Akkerman wrote:

> Previously Martin Aspeli wrote:
>> Let's all take a deep breath....
>> I think it's a bit worrying that these issues were only found after
>> merge. I'm not particularly thrilled about having code ship with 3.1
>> that is not used and that no-one will maintain. Arguably, this should
>> never have been submitted for inclusion (i.e. we should've made a new
>> branch of Calendaring or a new package altogether), and it should
>> probably have been picked up during bundle review, which was the  
>> proper
>> time to discuss this.
>> Now, reverting an accepted PLIP without notifying the PLIP owner is  
>> a bad idea. We risk alienating contributors and it could be  
>> conceived as
>> disrespectful of their contributions. Sidnei seemed to be offering a
>> plan to improve this situation before 3.1. I was a bit confused by  
>> some
>> of the details there, but we should try and work those out in a  
>> positive
>> way.
>> That said, Wichert's message seems to say to me "I've reverted it for
>> now, we'll try again later", in a somewhat convoluted way. If  
>> that's the
>> case, then there's no reason to panic. That said, I think a message  
>> to
>> the PLIP author would be the right thing to do here. We also need a  
>> bit
>> more detail than "it breaks the front page" to be able to work  
>> together
>> on resolving any problems.
>> Let's not lose sign of the bigger picture here: Improving our WebDAV
>> support is an important goal, and something that's been painful to  
>> get
>> right in the past. Let's not make it more painful by getting lost in
>> process like this.
> As usual Martin does a better job of wording what I'm thinking than I
> can.
> We have multiple people merging a fair amount of changes in the tree  
> on
> a pretty tight schedule, so it is imortant that there are no problems
> as a result of a merge. Sidnei said he would work on this on Monday,  
> so
> I made the decision to revert the changes in the 3.1 tree to give him
> all the time he needs to respond to the found issues while giving
> everyone else who needs to work with the 3.1 tree a stable tree to  
> work
> with.
> The frontpage issue I found is very simple to reproduce: if you  
> create a
> new Plone site the text of the default frontpage is empty. After
> reverting the changes to CMFPlone frontpage creation worked again.
> Wichert.
> -- 
> Wichert Akkerman <wichert at wiggy.net>    It is simple to make things.
> http://www.wiggy.net/                   It is hard to make things  
> simple.
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