[Framework-Team] zope "two visions" info

whit d.w.morriss at gmail.com
Thu Mar 2 18:26:37 UTC 2006

Rob Miller wrote:
> On Mar 2, 2006, at 10:02 AM, whit wrote:
>> my suggestion along these lines was to start by firing a shot over 
>> the z3 bow by saying "hey, we are the pfwt, we're concerned, we're 
>> going to discuss this amongst plone developers"
>> just so they know there are eyes on the subject even if we haven't 
>> said anything.  then you guys can start the conversation here amongst 
>> the team and the larger plone-dev community and it if take a little 
>> while to get consensus, there will be nobody saying "well you didn't 
>> speak up...." later.
> i'm not 100% behind a monolithic plone framework team opinion.  i 
> think chatting about it in this venue is fine, and if there _is_ 
> consensus, great, that can be used, but i also think each person 
> should be encouraged to speak from an individual voice, as well.
> -r

yeah, I think that's fair...

Something as simple as letting the z3 side know that plone and the 
framework team has been discussing this is more important symbolically 
than having a unified response. 

just because everyone else charges in guns blazing doesn't mean we have 
to. and this debate could really effect plone more than almost anyone 
else, so at looking before leaping isn't a bad idea.  at least we should 
know the ups downs of what other think to inform an effective response.

I would say that helping generate some opinions on the plone side and 
expressing them on the z3 side would be the most important thing here.  
I would say the framework team is somewhat charged with the roles of 
representing those that don't know enough to care in this situation, and 
figuring out a way to get that information on their needs is what is 
called for.

just my $.02


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