[Framework-Team] Re: Let sleeping PLIPs lie...

[Martin Aspeli]

Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> Previously Martin Aspeli wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>>> http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/117 (AJAX dep)
>>> http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/116 (AJAX dep)
>>> http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/163 (AJAX dep)
>>> http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/124 (AJAX dep)
>> All of these are fairly obvious. There will naturally be tweaking and 
>> iterations of the implementation, but I think that these types of 
>> improvements can sometimes be done on trunk rather than in branches 
>> where they either would affect several other branches (e.g. a new widget 
>> that several new features may need) or where they are straightforward 
>> and/or easily reversible (e.g. a template change can be reverted without 
>> serious dependency breakage).
>>
>> Let's see what does come in time for the deadline, but if some of these 
>> don't, I'd be +1 to seeing them done afterwards *provided* that the beta 
>> and RC deadlines are taken seriously!
> 
> They'll have to be done reasonably early in the alphas I think.

+1 - I think if we are pragmatic about risk and benefit, we shouldn't 
have too much trouble.

>> Pragmatically speaking, as Limi points out, it's also a bit unfair to 
>> penalise these PLIPs when we haven't got the AJAX story sorted out yet. 
>> There is still too much uncertainty to start on any of these in earnest.
> 
> Agreed.

+1

>>> http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/176 (visual redesign pending)
>> If this is too invasive, it may be a bit risky and impact a lot of other 
>> PLIPs. If the changes are relatively minor or gradual, they may be OK. 
>> This sounds like branch work, though. :)
> 
> It's incredibly vague so we can't judge this one. Do we have any idea
> when this might start to become clearer?

Agree. No ideas when this may happen, and I don't think it's a major 
problem if it doesn't make it for 3.0 either. Let's wait and see what 
comes out of Limi and Alma, and then we can judge.

> Code-wide it should be fairly low impact though, so it can be developed
> on a branch or on a seperate product and merged when we feel it's ready.

True. It's just one of those things that'd be incredibly nice to put on 
a release announcement.

Martin