[Evangelism] CMS smackdown

Matt Hamilton matth at netsight.co.uk
Wed May 30 14:53:49 UTC 2012

On 28 May 2012, at 18:01, Armin Stroß-Radschinski wrote:

> Hi Matt,
> do not make yourself pain with hate. Avoid playing this game. Make it proactive!

Don't worry, I very much plan to. Maybe it was not obvious from the 'hates' in my list, that I want to spin them to positives if I can. btw in case it was not clear the format '5 Things you Love, 5 Thing you Hate' is specified by the event organiser. So whilst the word 'hate' is strong, it is what is being used in the event.

> Hate is something not pointing to solutions so you should waste one point for:
> 1. I hate that it makes pain to find something we really hate. But we know challenges!
> 4 points the community is currently turning from flaws into solutions:
> - Ripping out stuff is still a task not automated!
> - The old documentation still does not match the standards recently created docs meet.
> - The value that comes from Plones evolutionary continous development quality is not as obvious as it should be. (is that fake?)
> - Former revolutionary Plone concepts are now very common. New concepts are not recognized that well related to their genereal value for the whole Software & CMS world (Transmogrifier, Diazo)

I especially like the latter two points. I mean, how many other CMS projects have CI clusters doing testing and the likes? (actually… that may not be a rhetorical question… I will investigate). And also the fact that Plone (and Zope) were so ahead of their time that many didn't quite understand them. Concepts such as NoSQL are now becoming popular.

I'm going to have to talk fast ;)


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