[Evangelism] CMS smackdown

T Kim Nguyen nguyen at uwosh.edu
Mon May 28 21:37:21 UTC 2012

I'd be tempted to make security a top 5 item.

At PSE we did some brainstorming as part of the PloneEdu web site sprint and came up with this (raw) list. The starred ones the ones we thought were most important.


What Makes Plone Great
    *High security out of the box
    *education-focused “products” (modules, add-ons, extensions) (eg. FSD, timeslot)
    *improving your business processes
    *forms builder
    *free and open source
    *in-place editing
    responsive / mobile-friendly
    file structure
    accessible URLs
    docs of various types
    Plone user groups
    accessibility compliance
    modern technology framework
    upgrade path
    easy to theme
    multilingual and global community
    handles lots of content
    publication workflows OOTB
    built in search
    fine grained permissions groups
    auth integration
    collections / reports / queries
    installable product modules
    zeo-enterprise scale OOTB
    conferences for edu

On May 28, 2012, at 11:04 AM, Matt Hamilton <matth at netsight.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi all,
>   I'm going to be representing Plone at a fairly informal local event, BathCamp who are running a CMS Smackdown:
> http://bathcamp.org/events/cms-smackdown/
> I've got 10 minutes to talk about 5 things I love about Plone and 5 things I hate. I'm up against 7 other CMSs. So I'm trying to think of my list of things. Many of the people at the event will generally be techies, so I won't be afraid to talk about some of the technical aspects. However the bit I'm struggling with is coming up with 5 things I hate ;) I'm hoping to mention how we are improving the things I hate
> So my draft list so far:
> 5 Things I love about Plone:
> - The Community (international events, people, etc)
> - Buildout + Deployment (dev.cfg -> staging.cfg -> live.cfg, versioning eggs etc)
> - The ZODB (pervasive data store… no need to think SQL etc)
> - Diazo (Great way to theme sites + demo)
> - Python [1]
> 5 Things I hate about Plone:
> - Legacy (talk about ripping out stuff, Zope 4 etc)
> - Documentation (talk about the swamp of old docs, but point out good new stuff eg. Developer Manual)
> - Perception by Python developers (that is is old hat and boring: point out it does its job well and is mature)
> - Everything in the catalog (talk about navigation using it etc. Point out move to parent pointers, use of Solr etc)
> - Too easy to shoot yourself in the foot performance-wise (i.e., as ZODB is pervasive, you can accidentally load every object in the ZODB or mutate things you don't mean to).
> Any thoughts on this list? Any other good viewpoints, ideas? Bearing in mind I have just two minutes per point!
> -Matt
> [1] Great quote from colleague: "When I used to program in Java I used to first think how to solve the problem, then I had to think how to code that in Java. With Python I think how to solve the problem, then just write it"
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