[Evangelism] PyCon Japan 2012 and Plone
djay at pretaweb.com
Wed May 23 07:38:51 UTC 2012
On 23/05/2012, at 4:19 PM, Mark A Corum wrote:
> I think the idea of a contest to drive new users to Plone is a good
> one. But trophies? Not good. I work at a university and work with
> students every week with campaigns. They see trophies as a joke -
> artifacts of old time thinking with about as much attractiveness as
> an eight track or cassette tape. Please don't date Plone as old and
> tired in this way.
> When dealing with competitors to whom acceptance means jobs, money,
> etc - this is just a bit weak. There are much better, more forward
> thinking ways to recognize excellent work. We should do this - but
> in a BIG way with some serious recognition.
> Naming releases after beers is a non-starter because of copyrights.
> The joke only works when you use actual beer names - and sadly that
> is a copyright licensing issue. While I'm glad this April Fool's
> joke has taken on a life of its own, beer naming works for developer
> culture - and doesn't work for corporate, education or many foreign
> cultures which attach negative connotations to alcohol. Armin is
> right on that one. Alienating potential users is not a good idea,and
> really doesn't profit us in a significant way.
> Likewise, galaxies lack personality and individuality. Few people
> can name a galaxy if you show them a picture of it - and why would
> Plone Andromeda be thought of differently than Plone Large
> Magellanic Cloud or M-102. Apple release names tie features and
> themes to big cat personalities - and Ubuntu names are loaded with
> personality by pairing a descriptor with their animals. Effective
> non-number releases need to be sensible and descriptive to non-
> developers. And they need to be memorable and cross-cultural.
Since it's python we could use snake names. Plone cobra. Plone
Anaconda. Plone Boa etc (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_snakes_by_common_name
Previously there was a suggestion of famous beaches. That makes
international which is nice. Plone Brighton, Plone Bondi, Plone Del
Mar, Plone Ventura (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_beaches)
Alteration can sounds good so a theme of words starting with P?
Not sure if either of these suggestions are cool enough though.
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> On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Armin Stroß-Radschinski <developer at acsr.de
> > wrote:
> Google Summer of Code supporting Plone may was a good recognition in
> the upcoming professionals area. Timo Stollenwerk and Franco
> Pellegrini are excellent examples what kind of success good newcomer
> support can bring up! We need such successful people talk more about
> their involvement.
> Cab we create a well donated developer contest attracting new guys
> by special topics and attractive winner prizes? Of course! Then the
> celebration of the handing over should be a remarkable media event
> (at least look like!)
> To design and deliver a remarkable award trophy that makes up good
> photos and heavy weight on the desk should be no problem (for me ;-)
> waving! We were running pupil contests with around 5000 participants
> each time for nearly 10 years. The setup is in the drawer!
> Am 22.05.2012 um 19:23 schrieb Maurizio Delmonte:
> On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Matt Hamilton
> <matth at netsight.co.uk> wrote:
> Not sure if it means anything but our company submitted 4 talks for
> pyconau this year. The two plone related talks were the two rejected.
> It got me to thinking about the plone communities relationship to
> the python community.
> I think open source is spread by fans, people not directly involved
> with the software itself. Those fans exist in a much larger
> community than plone itself. It makes me think that if the python
> community aren't fans of Plone, then where are our fans?
> Sorry it's a little negative and off topic.
> Similar experiences with Europython the past few years. There were a
> load of Plone talks submitted this year, and the only ones accepted
> were the ones that did not mention Plone in the title.
> actually, I have two talks in Europython this year: one mentions
> both Plone and Django in the title, the other just declares
> "professional content management with Python in 2012"..
> both the talks are in italian, so good chance are there that they
> were short in proposals ;)
> Nonetheless, Django itself this year had a very low profile presence
> at Europython (try to search for it here https://ep2012.europython.eu/p3/schedule/ep2012/
> and you'll see just 3 talks on Django, then two more, one very tech
> unrelated and the other from me..)
> I believe we need to be present at PyCons as much as we can, to make
> people aware that Plone is well alive and that plone could serve
> them well (finally we are made out of Python, aren't we?).
> I also believe that Matt & c. are right in saying that we should try
> to attract devs using other channels, universities being a good
> alternative to me.
> Let's inspire more people to do this!
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