[Evangelism] PyCon Japan 2012 and Plone

Dylan Jay djay at pretaweb.com
Tue May 22 22:41:34 UTC 2012

On 23/05/2012, at 7:23 AM, "Ken Wasetis [Contextual Corp.]" <
ken.wasetis at contextualcorp.com> wrote:


Maybe Mark Corum can post the link to his beer-branded release names PLIP
(originally, an April Fool's joke) ?  I think it was gathering steam as a
real PLIP last I looked.

I vote for Plone 5 - Barnstormer  (
http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/5049/13084/?ba=hunteraw ), which was
my favorite ale at the Bristol Plone conf.  :)

We'd have to also be sure to not have conflicting numbers included in
release names.  As I recall from my Java days, it was a real mess
explaining that JDK 2 actually included Java 1.2 or some such mess.

Pity cause the logical name would be "plone 3D" :)


On 5/22/12 4:06 PM, Gabrielle Hendryx-Parker wrote:

Could it also be that Plone has been marketed as "Plone v1, v2, v3, v4" for
10 years and that has very little appeal?

 As a marketing-driven company, Apple understood this phenomenon very well
and, instead, rolled out "Tiger", "Leopard", "Snow Leopard", "Lion"...
unveiling each version as a totally new product. This allowed them to
leverage totally different marketing campaigns and keep the public

 Can we orchestrate a grand new product launch for Plone 5 under a
different marketing name (but keep the Plone name as the umbrella brand)?

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 On May 22, 2012, at 4:29 PM, Ken Wasetis [Contextual Corp.] wrote:

 +1 Sounds like a great idea!  Maybe approach the marketing committee
and/or Board?

On 5/22/12 2:03 PM, Armin Stroß-Radschinski wrote:

Google Summer of Code supporting Plone may was a good recognition in the
upcoming professionals area. Timo Stollenwerk and Franco Pellegrini are
excellent examples what kind of success good newcomer support can bring up!
We need such successful people talk more about their involvement.

 Cab we create a well donated developer contest attracting new guys by
special topics and attractive winner prizes? Of course! Then the
celebration of the handing over should be a remarkable media event (at
least look like!)

 To design and deliver a remarkable award trophy that makes up good photos
and heavy weight on the desk should be no problem (for me ;-) waving! We
were running pupil contests with around 5000 participants each time for
nearly 10 years. The setup is in the drawer!


 Am 22.05.2012 um 19:23 schrieb Maurizio Delmonte:

  On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Matt Hamilton <matth at netsight.co.uk>

   Not sure if it means anything but our company submitted 4 talks for
pyconau this year. The two plone related talks were the two rejected.

  It got me to thinking about the plone communities relationship to the
python community.

  I think open source is spread by fans, people not directly involved with
the software itself. Those fans exist in a much larger community than plone
itself. It makes me think that if the python community aren't fans of
Plone, then where are our fans?

  Sorry it's a little negative and off topic.

  Similar experiences with Europython the past few years. There were a load
of Plone talks submitted this year, and the only ones accepted were the
ones that did not mention Plone in the title.

  actually, I have two talks in Europython this year: one mentions both
Plone and Django in the title, the other just declares "professional
content management with Python in 2012"..

  both the talks are in italian, so good chance are there that they were
short in proposals ;)

  Nonetheless, Django itself this year had a very low profile presence at
Europython (try to search for it here
https://ep2012.europython.eu/p3/schedule/ep2012/ and you'll see just 3
talks on Django, then two more, one very tech unrelated and the other from

  I believe we need to be present at PyCons as much as we can, to make
people aware that Plone is well alive and that plone could serve them well
(finally we are made out of Python, aren't we?).

  I also believe that Matt & c. are right in saying that we should try to
attract devs using other channels, universities being a good alternative to

 Let's inspire more people to do this!



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