[Evangelism] Bad result for Plone at Europython

[Maurizio Delmonte]

On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Matt Hamilton <matth at netsight.co.uk>wrote:

>
> On 20 Apr 2011, at 08:24, Jan Ulrich Hasecke wrote:
>
> Historically Plone has had poor reception at Europython. I think this is
> mainly because it is not the 'cool new thing'. I mean, it is a bit boring
> really... we have been around a while, we have solved all the hard problems,
> we have a great community and we did NoSQL 10 years ago. The Plone community
> just get on and do things. An interesting example is that two years ago
> there were *loads* of talks about Django on the agenda. The following year,
> just one.
>


that's explaining my whole point when i say: "plone is no more perceived as
a cutting edge technology" :)


*If* I go to Europython this year, and hoping to do the Lightning talk that
> I didn't get to do last year, which was 'From python to Plone in 3 minutes'
> in which I will do a live demo of going from a plain python 2.6 install to
> Plone 4 up and running in 3 minutes.



we should push this in a "nice" video format (a screencast or something..)
on the "python community channels" someway ;)
also, we could push this on plone.org (or I'm missing it if it's already
there..)



> I still think a lot of people are wary of Zope/Plone as it still has a bad
> reputation from before when it was a big monolithic thing you had to swallow
> whole.


+1
I think that senior python programmers are negative biased about plone (and
zope) as they were ages ago, and they tend to pull on their side python
new-comers. That's why i'm sad, and why i think that a Plone booth at such
event could help letting new people in (not rare that, after I talk a bit
about plone as it is now to non-plone python developers, they say "oh
really? :)" )

a plone booth could push a message like: "Professional web content
management with Python? Let's Plone!"



> I'm hoping that Pyramid goes some way to helping alleviate these fears as
> it is taking a lot of the technology we know and trust and putting it in
> front of a new audience.
>

+1

Maurizio

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