[Evangelism] Strategy focus decisions - Plone-the-product vs. Plone-the-platform - Discovering a blog entry by Paul Everitt from 2008

Roijen, Bas bas.roijen at cofely-gdfsuez.nl
Wed Dec 2 08:06:34 UTC 2009

We're currently serving about 500GB of data with our intranet.
I only know it's Plone 2.1 with (I believe) ATManagedFile for filesystem support and a few other addons.
In a few weeks I have to move it to another server and get it up to Plone 3, so then I can see how plone.app.blob will perform.

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-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: evangelism-bounces at lists.plone.org [mailto:evangelism-bounces at lists.plone.org] Namens Nate Aune
Verzonden: dinsdag 1 december 2009 18:57
Aan: Ken Wasetis [Contextual Corp.]
CC: Sally Kleinfeldt; office at valentinewebsystems.se; evangelism at lists.plone.org
Onderwerp: Re: [Evangelism] Strategy focus decisions - Plone-the-product vs. Plone-the-platform - Discovering a blog entry by Paul Everitt from 2008

> b) CMIS:
> http://www.optaros.com/blogs/alfresco-drupal-cmis-integration-availabl
> e

Did you see Sally's blog post on CMIS and Plone?

> 5) Terabyte storage solutions.  Documentum and their DMS-based ilk 
> have handled this for years.  How many large-scale storage Plone case 
> studies are there on plone.net?  Many a time, Plone integrators can't 
> discuss the few successes that may exist here.  Hopefully, this story 
> improves with BLOB storage in Plone 4.

Sasha recently wrote a blog post about large repositories of data being served up from Plone using plone.app.blob.

We're currently working on a project to build a digital asset management system using Plone, which will be serving terabytes of data.


> Matt Hamilton wrote:
>> On 30 Nov 2009, at 09:18 PM, Dylan Jay <djay at pretaweb.com> wrote:
>>> These are awesome points. I think unique and challenging reality is 
>>> that plone is both product and a platform but we've been trying 
>>> market both through the same channels which is why the message has 
>>> sometimes been confusing. Eg we say plone is easy to install but in 
>>> reality only in drvrloment mode not production mode so that is 
>>> really a platfom message not a product message.
>>> Drupal delivers drupal the product message via it's dot com site and 
>>> it's platform message via it's dot org site.
>>> I am also thinking we are better off concentrating on selling plone 
>>> as a platform. Not just because we need more develepers and 
>>> integrators to gain greater momentum but recently I've been 
>>> discovering plone doest sell well as a product.
>>> If someone comes to us (as PretaWeb) and says
>>> A) we need a website that can blah blah then plone is easy to sell.
>>> If a customer comes to us and says
>>> B) we're considering to purchase plone as a cms or intranet it's a 
>>> really hard sell.
>>> This is even though we sell training and support and that both 
>>> solutions would need to be equally customized. Why?
>>> People picking products tend to pick product companies. Makes them 
>>> more comfortable. They feel like they can sue them and that will act 
>>> more to help them to protect the reputation of the product etc. 
>>> Plone has no product company.
>>> I guess this is why open source works better for platforms than products.
>> I'm at a show so only a brief reply now, but just say that CMS Watch 
>> recently recategorised their vendor listings and now split by 
>> platform vs product and by size. IIRC Plone is in the Mid-range 
>> Platform category. Along with Drupal and Typo3. Alfresco is in 
>> Upper-range platform. Joomla and
>> Terminal4 are in Simpler Products.
>> The CMS Watch stand is near us at the show I'll try and get some 
>> feedback on their views as to what went into categorising them.
>> -Matt
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