[Evangelism] WPD Web2.0 Champion needed

Tim Knapp duffyd at kokorice.org
Sun Nov 2 22:22:43 UTC 2008


Hi Gerry,

On Sun, 2008-11-02 at 07:15 -0500, Gerry Kirk wrote:
> Ok thanks Christian for your suggestions. Both helpful for now and for
> establishing an ongoing effort to build an online community.
> 
> 
> All, I've made a list of things to do - WPD list
> 
> 
> Amazing what you can get done with an extra hour time change (not like
> I can sleep more with little kids in the house).
> 
> 
> Nate, there is a task there for you.
> 
> 
> Question - what content do we have for posting? Is the idea to use the
> media release?
> 
> 
> What do people think about live streaming some of the events?
> 
> 
> Do we have a list of local WPD organizer contacts?
> 
> 
> I like Christian's idea to use a url like worldploneday.org. I could
> buy it, donate it to the PF and have it autoforward to the WPD page on
> plone.org. Sound good?
> 
> 
> What about collecting tagged Flickr photos? Do we have a place where
> we can aggregate activity happening on the web? I could create a
> PageFlakes page which would accomplish this. Other ideas?

I sent an email to the list a little while back with a link[1] to a
Yahoo Pipes feed for WPD 2008. It was my first attempt at setting 1 up
so I'm unsure if it's working correctly so feel free to modify it to
suck in some more content (currently referencing flickr, bloglines,
youtube, delicious).

Thanks,
Tim

[1] http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/pipe.info?_id=7uO8l_Oc3RGCrANR1L3fcQ

> 
> 
> - Gerry
> 
> On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 9:15 AM, Christian Scholz <cs at comlounge.net>
> wrote:
>         Hi!
>         
>         I wanted to be somewhat more active with this here but
>         workload is a bit
>         high at the moment. But here are my remarks.
>         
>         So the thing with all this if IMHO that you need to build a
>         web2.0
>         community before such events, not with such events. Basically
>         it means
>         things like putting a "Follow Plone on twitter" button and a
>         link to a
>         Facebook group on the plone.org homepage. Moreover it might be
>         helpful
>         to also offer a link to subscribe to news via email (also news
>         should be
>         more visible). Can be done with Feedburner or other tools (but
>         should
>         produce statistics so we know what is working and what is
>         not).
>         
>         And to those who say that putting this web2.0 crap on the
>         homepage makes
>         no sense because tomorrow xyz instead of abc is the cool
>         thing, just
>         tell that then we switch to xyz ;-) You simply have to monitor
>         this
>         space to see where you reach people best.
>         
>         Of course also the logo on the homepage should IMHO be updated
>         ASAP.
>         
>         As for WPD you said most things already, I would add:
>         
>         - create a new twitter account for WPD, put in the URL and
>         some description
>         - post some updates on WPD and start following people. You
>         might not
>         want to add too many people at once though as this looks like
>         spamming.
>         Start with the Plone community and their followers to follow,
>         then reach
>         out (e.g. use Scoble's followers or something like that ;-) )
>         - put a link to the FB event and the twitter button on the
>         homepage
>         (create some nice buttons maybe)
>         - on FB invite as many people as possible to the event
>         (spamming seems
>         to be quite normal there ;-) ).
>         - tell your twitter followers about the FB event and all the
>         other stuff
>         once it's there. It's probably good to make a checklist of
>         what to
>         announce where when you have some news to spread.
>         - tell the community to reach out to bloggers individually,
>         prepare some
>         blogger compatible "press release". Everybody who blogs might
>         know that
>         the normal press release blurb is not really stuff easily to
>         copy and
>         paste you might want to have some sort of pre-defined blog
>         post you
>         spread around. In general it should be as easy as possible for
>         anybody
>         to spread the news:
>         - make a list what people can do in a subsection of WPD like
>           - all the sites we are active in and where people can invite
>         their
>         own contacts to.
>           - prepared blog posts/news items for people to
>         reblog/retweet
>           - call for spreading tweets from the WPD account.
>           - contacts of people whom they can ask for help
>         
>         
>         Here's something more:
>         
>         Ask participants in the event to setup some ustream-based
>         streaming of
>         the event. It would be great to somehow show off those streams
>         which are
>         active at some point in time.
>         Maybe also a plain listing of all the events would be nice to
>         show how
>         many there are.
>         
>         Registering worldploneday.org might also make sense and can
>         stay there
>         for the years to come (we repeat this, right? ;-) ).
>         
>         In general it would be nice to have more numbers, esp. such
>         which do not
>         compare it directly with other CMSes because that's not always
>         fair and
>         might not say anything. Rather it would be nice to know more
>         about
>         website statistics, downloads, contributor growth over the
>         years,
>         commits over the years, distribution of the community around
>         the world,
>         posting frequencies on the main mailing list over time etc.
>         
>         This always makes nice slides depending on how you present it
>         (I once
>         saw a presentation about drupal which was kinda like that and
>         was quite
>         well done).
>         
>         It might also make sense to try to get evangelism a bit more
>         active
>         maybe by making a weekly skype call or something like that.
>         Might help
>         to keep people motivated. I guess some chair of that group
>         would be
>         needed (Nate, are you something like that? :-) ).
>         
>         And again, statistics is important. We should know afterwards
>         which
>         channel worked best etc. This includes growth of twitter
>         users, FB
>         group, email subscriptions and so on.
>         
>         Ok, that are my quick thoughts on that. Hope they help! :-)
>         
>         -- Christian
>         
>         PS: Send greetings to Chris Brogan from me, Nate! :-) (not
>         sure he still
>         remembers me though) In any case Chris should know more about
>         this than
>         I do, the PF should hire him ;-)
>         
>         
>         
>         
>         Nate Aune wrote:
>         >> I can help with this.
>         >
>         > great!  if you hadn't volunteered, i was going to volunteer
>         you
>         anyways. ;)
>         >
>         >> write a blog post which will appear on Planet Plone
>         outlining a list
>         of ways
>         >> people can help spread the word.
>         >>
>         >> post to FB profile
>         >
>         > don't forget to post to the Plone group on LinkedIn
>         > http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2300
>         >
>         > Also, event listing sites such as Eventful.com, Upcoming.org
>         and
>         > Zvents.com. You can use http://gigblastr.com to bulk post
>         events to
>         > the first two, Twitter, and we're working on Facebook
>         posting.
>         >
>         >> follow my own advice in 1)
>         >> I can post to Digg, have never posted to Slashdot
>         >>
>         >> Does Plone have a fan page in Facebook? I can't seem to
>         figure out how to
>         >> search for one.
>         >
>         > It wasn't easy to find. The only way I could locate it was
>         by browsing.
>         > http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2247154032
>         >
>         >> Nate, don't you have a list of media contacts? Does anyone
>         have
>         connections
>         >> with prominent bloggers? Maybe we can try blogs like
>         TechCrunch.
>         >
>         > I met Michael Arrington once but I don't think he remembers
>         me. I know
>         > Chris Brogan and could see if he wouldn't mind plugging it
>         on his blog
>         > and/or twitter network.
>         >
>         >> Does anyone have a detailed listing of all the things we
>         should do?
>         >
>         > No, but this is a great opportunity to make one up. :)  I'm
>         cc'ing
>         > MrTopf as he has blogged about how to promote Plone the "Web
>         2.0" way
>         > and even given a talk about it.
>         >
>         http://dev.comlounge.net/conference/my-presentation-at-the-plone-conference-2007/
>         >
>         > Nate
>         >
>         >> On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Roberto Allende
>         <rover at menttes.com>
>         wrote:
>         >>> Hello
>         >>>
>         >>> If you are not organizing any wpd event or just have some
>         minutes
>         and want
>         >>> to contribute with WPD, here is your chance:
>         >>>
>         >>> We need *urgently* a WPD Web 2.0 spreader. The task
>         consist on spreading
>         >>> wpd as much as possible in the www, that includes adding
>         news in
>         sites like
>         >>> digg, delicious, twitter, slashdot and many others. Once
>         the news is
>         added
>         >>> you have write here  asking the community join and support
>         it.
>         >>>
>         >>> The material is ready:
>         >>> We have a press release:
>         http://plone.org/news/wpd-press-release
>         >>> And the official WPD site is: http://plone.org/wpd
>         >>>
>         >>> If you cannot do all the job, but you want to take care
>         doing it in one
>         >>> site, just do it!
>         >>>
>         >>> I strongly believe we've a very successful event already,
>         we just
>         need to
>         >>> let the world know!
>         >>>
>         >>> Kind Regards
>         >>> r.
>         >>>
>         >>> --
>         >>> http://robertoallende.com
>         >>>
>         >>>
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>         >>
>         >>
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