[Plone-conference] Openspace: growing plone

T. Kim Nguyen nguyen at uwosh.edu
Tue Oct 21 13:59:18 UTC 2014

I'd love to see Érico in action :)

I think it's a great idea to work towards the goal of updating the roadmap,
though I think it will be difficult to accomplish even in one full day
without first working to get general agreement on one or more directions.
It would also be fairer to give everyone more time to chime in on a set of
agreed upon directions before we dove into the greater detail of the


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On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 8:34 AM, Héctor Velarde <hector.velarde at gmail.com>

> I don't want to repeat myself; my views on what's failing have been posted
> in many places in the last years and I resumed it in one sentence a few
> months ago on a thread about marketing Plone:
> "if we do not fix that [the lack of an updated roadmap with the
> community's strategic vision of Plone in the short, mid and long term],
> Plone is going to slowly die as a viable project."
> https://community.plone.org/t/can-we-combine-communications-
> and-marketing/57/29
> (yes, that was before my friend Andreas named his talk.)
> we sell sites for $40 USD a month (including hosting) with the same
> features that we have developed for our main customers, but with almost no
> support; but I'm not interested in selling sites for $10 USD a month.
> and no, Harito, I don't agree with you: the cost of a Plone site is zero,
> nil, nada... what you're paying is not the software, but our service and
> expertise... and Plone, out of the box, is probably still the most amazing
> CMS out there; ask Érico to give you a sales presentation... he's
> unbeatable.
> it would be amazing if this open space ends with an updated vision of
> Plone to replace this one:
> https://plone.org/roadmap
> best regards
> Héctor Velarde
> On 20-10-2014 20:55, M. Harito Reisman wrote:
> > If the base costs for a Plone site is very high, Plone becomes a much
> > harder sell! What are the values the customer gains to make up for this?
> [...]
> > Plone is in a sense a strange product, because out of the
> > box the product is not providing much value in comparison to a rapidly
> > progressing market, one needs added services available from Plone
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