[Plone-com] We need a new modern theme for plone.com.

Wyn Williams heywyn at gmail.com
Wed Sep 5 05:11:36 UTC 2012


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Hello Julian
Just my 2c (etc) but from the sounds of it that would be more suitable
for stage two and further work (toolbar / Diazio etc) I think what was
mentioned / the idea is is to have a kick ass responsive layout /
graphical theme made by TV1 / a pro designer were as your theme sounds
more technically concentrated.

Maybe you could share and collaborate with André ? since the theme is
going to be made by a dedicated designer / as a client project they
will need specifications / requirements /  use cases / targeted groups
etc all of which you would of all ready done / prepared when starting
on the theme so would be good to get to them and save time from the
limited time resource available.

Your technical side of things / theme could then be used for a more
"flashy" in a technical sense theme with there layout and graphics in
stage two.

Thoughts ?

Wyn

PS I am just making suggestions, looking to André / main peeps on this
to decide








On 09/05/2012 07:52 AM, Julian Coyne wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> Wow - that's an explosion of pent-up plone energy... awesome to
> see!
> 
> I haven't reviewed everything as yet, but I thought I'd better get
> my thoughts out there (apologies if it is in conflict with any
> subsequent discussion to what I've read).
> 
> We have a theme called "plonetheme.unified" that cleanly
> integrates bootstrap with Plone... in a neat and unified way [TM]
> :-)
> 
> What that translates to is 'not another generic bootstrap theme',
> but rather one that respects Plone's visual identity, contains
> compatible compiled CSS for legacy plone markup (context/standalone
> anyone?), and overrides and a form layer for z3c.form and several
> other technologies to bring some unification, simplification and
> minimalism to the UI story.
> 
> We have been working on it and refining it since bootstrap 1.x,
> through 2.0 (looking at 2.1 presently).
> 
> I was planning on throwing this into the ring as part of the new
> Plone UI discussions (in fact I wanted to get thoughts on it before
> or as part of the Sea Sprint) but didn't know where that would end
> up as I'm not able to attend.
> 
> It may remove a significant roadblock and help reduce the stalling 
> that's held up plone.com thus far, and allow us to turn something
> great around for the project sooner.
> 
> I've also been involved in the plone.com project since working on
> the original marketing team and through the recent mailing list,
> and I share Matt's frustrations on bringing some focus to the
> project and making some actual progress.
> 
> I think it would work well for the new plone.com project. It neatly
> fit the criteria of a 'new modern theme' and is a neat reference 
> implementation of bootstrap (which the early emails in this thread
> that I've read seemed happy with). Best of all it is available
> now... which can hopefully shift the discussion from
> meta-bikeshedding as we're doing now... to real proper bikeshedding
> on the actual plone.com site ;-)
> 
> At present - it pointedly *isn't* a diazo theme (as we've been
> waiting for the toolbar integration or a clearer direction on clean
> integration points to avoid what we've needed to do on other diazo
> projects). Rather, it sets out to be a clean reference
> implementation of a modern non-diazo plonetheme(.*).
> 
> It is also quite opinionated in terms of legacy cruft and happily 
> destructive in terms of ripping out cruft from the registries
> (including KSS for 4.1/4.2), and leaving a neat little Plone JS/CSS
> footprint.
> 
> Lastly, we worked on an API compatible modal overlay replacement
> to "prepOverlay" from jqt-land, better defined HTML5 data-
> semantics (and a compatible javascript API) and IMO considerably
> tidier and more consistent UI/UX. The JS part isn't quite polished
> but the rest is functioning quite neatly and we have it in use at
> the moment.
> 
> So its fairly feature complete, and hopefully will be helpful to 
> progressing things.
> 
> Thanks all,
> 
> Julian
> 
> -- Julian Coyne Unified Systems T:  1300 UNIFIED [1300 864 343] M:
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> Julian Coyne Unified Systems T:  1300 UNIFIED [1300 864 343] M:
> 0438 658 466 [+61 438 658 466] E:  julian.coyne at unified.com.au W:
> www.unified.com.au
> 
> On 5/09/2012 11:30 AM, Wyn Williams wrote: Hello all +1 one on that
> (theme/content), it is how most projects normally work although in
> this case they will be very close.
> 
> TV1 seem to be an experienced Plone house and Im sure they would
> want to work with tools like the theme editor and Diazio anyway.
> 
> Rock and roll then :)
> 
> Wyn
> 
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> 
> On 09/05/2012 02:20 AM, Stone, Derrick J *HS wrote:
>>>> The most important focus of this site is the content. It must
>>>> be no bull-shizzle. The second most important focus should be
>>>> an excellent, modern theme, which is responsive. Without
>>>> these two items, Plone.com is not worth doing. It would be
>>>> better for potential customers to simply wonder if the
>>>> community has a professional standard.
>>>> 
>>>> I do not think shell access should be required - Plone
>>>> publishes content out of the box right? :p
>>>> 
>>>> Derrick ________________________________________ From: 
>>>> plone-com-bounces at lists.plone.org 
>>>> [plone-com-bounces at lists.plone.org] On Behalf Of Dylan Jay 
>>>> [djay at pretaweb.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 6:54 PM
>>>> To: Alex Clark Cc: plone-com at lists.plone.org Subject: Re:
>>>> [Plone-com] We need a new modern theme for plone.com.
>>>> 
>>>> There's a lot of cooks in here already but since we just put 
>>>> together a site for our new service recently I'll put in 2c
>>>> then go. - do content before the theme. The homepage in
>>>> particular should support your main message. - we went for a
>>>> design inspired by brightbox.com<http://brightbox.com> and 
>>>> squarespace.com<http://squarespace.com>. Long front page
>>>> forming a tour of main key differentiators. - but use a
>>>> professional designer, don't use pre rolled themes. - give
>>>> the new theme editor a go.  Great way to get feedback as the
>>>> theme is created and reduce friction created by deployment
>>>> delays. Diazo ftw.
>>>> 
>>>> Dylan Jay Technical solution manager PretaWeb 99552830
>>>> 
>>>> On 05/09/2012, at 12:29 AM, Alex Clark 
>>>> <aclark at aclark.net<mailto:aclark at aclark.net>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> As far as I can tell, this has not been discussed so:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Who wants to donate a new-modern-theme to the 
>>>> plone.com<http://plone.com> project? To get started, we're
>>>> going to use the existing plone.org<http://plone.org> theme 
>>>> (http://pypi.python.org/pypi/plonetheme.ploneorg) but we hope
>>>> to replace that with something better/newer later. If you
>>>> have any ideas, please let us know. Ideally the theme
>>>> requirements would be something like:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> *   Based on Twitter bootstrap (but does not appear to be
>>>> based on bootstrap, please) *   Responsive (included with
>>>> bootstrap) * Diazo-powered
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> But any and all theme donations will be considered and 
>>>> appreciated.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Alex
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -- Alex Clark · http://pythonpackages.com
>>>> 
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