[Plone-com] We need a new modern theme for plone.com.

Wyn Williams heywyn at gmail.com
Tue Sep 4 19:39:53 UTC 2012


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+1 to that (Notice how I avoided saying Armin to that ? it wasn't
easy) great If Armin takes the lead / coordinates tasks etc and Rose's
experience is put to good use.

Armin ?


T: Wyndham



On 09/04/2012 10:37 PM, Rose Pruyne wrote:
> This has probably already been cleared up sufficiently, but just
> in case...i'm fine with Armin taking the lead on content. Armin's
> fantastic! The points he's made thus far on the plone.com's content
> are spot on.
> 
> Rose Pruyne Project Manager WebLion Group
> 
> On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Alex Clark <aclark at aclark.net>
> wrote:
> 
>> Hey Wyn,
>> 
>> On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 3:02 PM, w.p.w <heywyn at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I really disagre with using plone.org for irc that is not what
>>> it is for and it should not be logged either really and
>>> plone.com should.
>>> 
>> 
>> +0. I don't really have a strong preference either way where the
>> group chats, but I'll be in #plone.org if you need me (I'm in too
>> many channels already).
>> 
>> 
>> Alex
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Wyn On Sep 4, 2012 9:56 PM, "Alex Clark" <aclark at aclark.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Elizabeth Leddy < 
>>>> elizabeth.leddy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> We have two points without leadership currently: design and
>>>>> content. I think Andres/TV1 can handle design. I really
>>>>> think that Armin (perhaps with the help of Plone Munich?)
>>>>> would be a great lead on content. Armin- would you be
>>>>> willing to lead everyone and get this content stuff
>>>>> together? Anyone have objections to that? If the two of you
>>>>> can coordinate at a high level then spread info down to
>>>>> everyone else helping it would be amazing.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Two cents on getting started: Step one is to set up a
>>>>> collaborative space for working on docs. Set some targets
>>>>> for when to get things done and set up some calls than
>>>>> anyone can join in and help. Without deadlines (fake or
>>>>> otherwise) this project is going to turn into a squabble
>>>>> fest. Also, there is money set aside for this project. Find
>>>>> out what's available and think about how to use it.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> IIUC, Rose has picked up the ball here.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Most importantly, I shit you not, this will not work unless
>>>>> this project goes ahead with a commitment to transparency.
>>>>> Communicate often and openly. Please :) (You only get a
>>>>> please with a smiley face once).
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> +1
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> For starters - live convo is now in #plone.com.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Can you make that #plone.org please? We've already begun a
>>>> discussion in there, and it's beneficial to have some overlap
>>>> with the AI team (since it will very likely get dumped on
>>>> them to maintain, regardless of how it developed and
>>>> deployed.)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Alex
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Liz
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 4, 2012, at 9:03 AM, Armin Stroß-Radschinski wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> The only request that I have related to Plone.com, is
>>>>>> that it works
>>>>> for the job (and that is not an objective). If they step up
>>>>> and can create a fast solution, we should get a grip on
>>>>> that. Is there the targetgroup definition in place? Do we
>>>>> have a moodchart where to go for emotionally? This should
>>>>> be a suggestion for a professional starting point for them,
>>>>> but not be part of a discussion.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> With Plone and Diazo final finetuning is a snap. The
>>>>>> quality should
>>>>> be state of the art and meet some expectations. If they
>>>>> (You!) could quickly write up some points they can meet
>>>>> with success, it would help a lot to gain speed.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Good design can let you feel the quality of the product.
>>>>>> This is not
>>>>> a matter of eye candy. We should aim at that and it should
>>>>> be a little "Plonish". I still wear my Plone Conf shirts
>>>>> from 2004 by clearnoodle design at night. And I sleep well
>>>>> ;-)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This is the only points I have in mind. The rest is
>>>>>> CONTENT and
>>>>> content rules!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Very important (from disasters in the past with other
>>>>>> projects, aka
>>>>> ZOPE): Make sure all rights of the design are fully
>>>>> transferred to the Plone Foundation and there is no
>>>>> "Reservation" attitude for design decisions in the follow
>>>>> up.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> No worry, It is just the contemporary appearance!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Armin
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Am 04.09.2012 um 17:45 schrieb Elizabeth Leddy:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sep 4, 2012, at 8:05 AM, André Nogueira wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> We talk a lot about plone.com with one of our
>>>>>>>> partners during Plone Symposium South America, and
>>>>>>>> this company offered to do the Design
>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> new plone.com.  The company is TV1.com, they have
>>>>>>>> designed all
>>>>> major
>>>>>>>> governments Plone websites here in Brazil, like:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> http://www.planalto.gov.br http://www.brasil.gov.br 
>>>>>>>> http://www.brasil.gov.br/enfrentandoocrack
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> They are very interested in contribute with Plone,
>>>>>>>> and this a great way to contribute.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> If no one is against the idea, I can start the
>>>>>>>> process with them
>>>>> immediately.
>>>>>>>> All we need to do is organize all information we have
>>>>>>>> and all we
>>>>> need
>>>>>>>> in our nem website.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I don't see any reason why this shouldn't be done. Can
>>>>>>> any one come
>>>>> up with objections? Not only does it save us time but it
>>>>> gives them a chance to give back.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> As far as marketing material, Rose, Armin, Derrick - do
>>>>>>> you feel
>>>>> comfortable writing this stuff or is this something that we
>>>>> should seriously consider farming out? My unfortunate
>>>>> educated guess is that nothing really exists yet but please
>>>>> correct me if I'm wrong.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Liz
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> []s
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Andre Nogueira andre at simplesconsultoria.com.br 
>>>>>>>> Simples Consultoria www.simplesconsultoria.com.br 
>>>>>>>> Tel. (11) 3898-2121
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Alex Clark
>>>>>>>> <aclark at aclark.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> As far as I can tell, this has not been discussed
>>>>>>>>> so:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Who wants to donate a new-modern-theme to the
>>>>>>>>> plone.com project?
>>>>> To get
>>>>>>>>> started, we're going to use the existing plone.org
>>>>>>>>> theme 
>>>>>>>>> (http://pypi.python.org/pypi/plonetheme.ploneorg)
>>>>>>>>> but we hope to
>>>>> replace
>>>>>>>>> that with something better/newer later. If you have
>>>>>>>>> any ideas,
>>>>> please let us
>>>>>>>>> know. Ideally the theme requirements would be
>>>>>>>>> something like:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Based on Twitter bootstrap (but does not appear to
>>>>>>>>> be based on
>>>>> bootstrap,
>>>>>>>>> please) Responsive (included with bootstrap) 
>>>>>>>>> Diazo-powered
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> But any and all theme donations will be considered
>>>>>>>>> and appreciated.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -- Alex Clark · http://pythonpackages.com
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -- Alex Clark · http://pythonpackages.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> -- Alex Clark · http://pythonpackages.com
>> 
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