[Plone-com] We need a new modern theme for plone.com.

Rose Pruyne rtp2 at psu.edu
Tue Sep 4 19:37:14 UTC 2012


This has probably already been cleared up sufficiently, but just in
case...i'm fine with Armin taking the lead on content. Armin's fantastic!
The points he's made thus far on the plone.com's content are spot on.

Rose Pruyne
Project Manager
WebLion Group

On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Alex Clark <aclark at aclark.net> wrote:

> Hey Wyn,
>
> On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 3:02 PM, w.p.w <heywyn at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I really disagre with using plone.org for irc that is not what it is for
>> and it should not be logged either really and plone.com should.
>>
>
> +0. I don't really have a strong preference either way where the group
> chats, but I'll be in #plone.org if you need me (I'm in too many channels
> already).
>
>
> Alex
>
>
>
>> Wyn
>> On Sep 4, 2012 9:56 PM, "Alex Clark" <aclark at aclark.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Elizabeth Leddy <
>>> elizabeth.leddy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> We have two points without leadership currently: design and content. I
>>>> think Andres/TV1 can handle design. I really think that Armin (perhaps with
>>>> the help of Plone Munich?) would be a great lead on content. Armin- would
>>>> you be willing to lead everyone and get this content stuff together? Anyone
>>>> have objections to that? If the two of you can coordinate at a high level
>>>> then spread info down to everyone else helping it would be amazing.
>>>>
>>>> Two cents on getting started:
>>>> Step one is to set up a collaborative space for working on docs. Set
>>>> some targets for when to get things done and set up some calls than anyone
>>>> can join in and help. Without deadlines (fake or otherwise) this project is
>>>> going to turn into a squabble fest. Also, there is money set aside for this
>>>> project. Find out what's available and think about how to use it.
>>>>
>>>
>>> IIUC, Rose has picked up the ball here.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Most importantly, I shit you not, this will not work unless this
>>>> project goes ahead with a commitment to transparency. Communicate often and
>>>> openly. Please :) (You only get a please with a smiley face once).
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> For starters - live convo is now in #plone.com.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Can you make that #plone.org please? We've already begun a discussion
>>> in there, and it's beneficial to have some overlap with the AI team (since
>>> it will very likely get dumped on them to maintain, regardless of how it
>>> developed and deployed.)
>>>
>>>
>>> Alex
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Liz
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 4, 2012, at 9:03 AM, Armin Stroß-Radschinski wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > The only request that I have related to Plone.com, is that it works
>>>> for the job (and that is not an objective). If they step up and can create
>>>> a fast solution, we should get a grip on that. Is there the targetgroup
>>>> definition in place? Do we have a moodchart where to go for emotionally?
>>>> This should be a suggestion for a professional starting point for them, but
>>>> not be part of a discussion.
>>>> >
>>>> > With Plone and Diazo final finetuning is a snap. The quality should
>>>> be state of the art and meet some expectations. If they (You!) could
>>>> quickly write up some points they can meet with success, it would help a
>>>> lot to gain speed.
>>>> >
>>>> > Good design can let you feel the quality of the product. This is not
>>>> a matter of eye candy. We should aim at that and it should be a little
>>>> "Plonish". I still wear my Plone Conf shirts from 2004 by clearnoodle
>>>> design at night. And I sleep well ;-)
>>>> >
>>>> > This is the only points I have in mind. The rest is CONTENT and
>>>> content rules!
>>>> >
>>>> > Very important (from disasters in the past with other projects, aka
>>>> ZOPE): Make sure all rights of the design are fully transferred to the
>>>> Plone Foundation and there is no "Reservation" attitude for design
>>>> decisions in the follow up.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > No worry, It is just the contemporary appearance!
>>>> >
>>>> > Armin
>>>> >
>>>> > Am 04.09.2012 um 17:45 schrieb Elizabeth Leddy:
>>>> >
>>>> >> On Sep 4, 2012, at 8:05 AM, André Nogueira wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> Hi,
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> We talk a lot about plone.com with one of our partners during Plone
>>>> >>> Symposium South America, and this company offered to do the Design
>>>> for
>>>> >>> new plone.com.  The company is TV1.com, they have designed all
>>>> major
>>>> >>> governments Plone websites here in Brazil, like:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> http://www.planalto.gov.br
>>>> >>> http://www.brasil.gov.br
>>>> >>> http://www.brasil.gov.br/enfrentandoocrack
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> They are very interested in contribute with Plone, and this a great
>>>> >>> way to contribute.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> If no one is against the idea, I can start the process with them
>>>> immediately.
>>>> >>> All we need to do is organize all information we have and all we
>>>> need
>>>> >>> in our nem website.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I don't see any reason why this shouldn't be done. Can any one come
>>>> up with objections? Not only does it save us time but it gives them a
>>>> chance to give back.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> As far as marketing material, Rose, Armin, Derrick - do you feel
>>>> comfortable writing this stuff or is this something that we should
>>>> seriously consider farming out? My unfortunate educated guess is that
>>>> nothing really exists yet but please correct me if I'm wrong.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Liz
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> []s
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Andre Nogueira
>>>> >>> andre at simplesconsultoria.com.br
>>>> >>> Simples Consultoria
>>>> >>> www.simplesconsultoria.com.br
>>>> >>> Tel. (11) 3898-2121
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Alex Clark <aclark at aclark.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>> Hi,
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> As far as I can tell, this has not been discussed so:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Who wants to donate a new-modern-theme to the plone.com project?
>>>> To get
>>>> >>>> started, we're going to use the existing plone.org theme
>>>> >>>> (http://pypi.python.org/pypi/plonetheme.ploneorg) but we hope to
>>>> replace
>>>> >>>> that with something better/newer later. If you have any ideas,
>>>> please let us
>>>> >>>> know. Ideally the theme requirements would be something like:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Based on Twitter bootstrap (but does not appear to be based on
>>>> bootstrap,
>>>> >>>> please)
>>>> >>>> Responsive (included with bootstrap)
>>>> >>>> Diazo-powered
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> But any and all theme donations will be considered and appreciated.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Alex
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> --
>>>> >>>> Alex Clark · http://pythonpackages.com
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
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