[Plone-com] We need a new modern theme for plone.com.

Alex Clark aclark at aclark.net
Tue Sep 4 19:09:25 UTC 2012


Hey Wyn,

On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 3:02 PM, w.p.w <heywyn at gmail.com> wrote:

> I really disagre with using plone.org for irc that is not what it is for
> and it should not be logged either really and plone.com should.
>

+0. I don't really have a strong preference either way where the group
chats, but I'll be in #plone.org if you need me (I'm in too many channels
already).


Alex



> Wyn
> On Sep 4, 2012 9:56 PM, "Alex Clark" <aclark at aclark.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Elizabeth Leddy <
>> elizabeth.leddy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> We have two points without leadership currently: design and content. I
>>> think Andres/TV1 can handle design. I really think that Armin (perhaps with
>>> the help of Plone Munich?) would be a great lead on content. Armin- would
>>> you be willing to lead everyone and get this content stuff together? Anyone
>>> have objections to that? If the two of you can coordinate at a high level
>>> then spread info down to everyone else helping it would be amazing.
>>>
>>> Two cents on getting started:
>>> Step one is to set up a collaborative space for working on docs. Set
>>> some targets for when to get things done and set up some calls than anyone
>>> can join in and help. Without deadlines (fake or otherwise) this project is
>>> going to turn into a squabble fest. Also, there is money set aside for this
>>> project. Find out what's available and think about how to use it.
>>>
>>
>> IIUC, Rose has picked up the ball here.
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Most importantly, I shit you not, this will not work unless this project
>>> goes ahead with a commitment to transparency. Communicate often and openly.
>>> Please :) (You only get a please with a smiley face once).
>>>
>>
>>
>> +1
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> For starters - live convo is now in #plone.com.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Can you make that #plone.org please? We've already begun a discussion in
>> there, and it's beneficial to have some overlap with the AI team (since it
>> will very likely get dumped on them to maintain, regardless of how it
>> developed and deployed.)
>>
>>
>> Alex
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Liz
>>>
>>> On Sep 4, 2012, at 9:03 AM, Armin Stroß-Radschinski wrote:
>>>
>>> > The only request that I have related to Plone.com, is that it works
>>> for the job (and that is not an objective). If they step up and can create
>>> a fast solution, we should get a grip on that. Is there the targetgroup
>>> definition in place? Do we have a moodchart where to go for emotionally?
>>> This should be a suggestion for a professional starting point for them, but
>>> not be part of a discussion.
>>> >
>>> > With Plone and Diazo final finetuning is a snap. The quality should be
>>> state of the art and meet some expectations. If they (You!) could quickly
>>> write up some points they can meet with success, it would help a lot to
>>> gain speed.
>>> >
>>> > Good design can let you feel the quality of the product. This is not a
>>> matter of eye candy. We should aim at that and it should be a little
>>> "Plonish". I still wear my Plone Conf shirts from 2004 by clearnoodle
>>> design at night. And I sleep well ;-)
>>> >
>>> > This is the only points I have in mind. The rest is CONTENT and
>>> content rules!
>>> >
>>> > Very important (from disasters in the past with other projects, aka
>>> ZOPE): Make sure all rights of the design are fully transferred to the
>>> Plone Foundation and there is no "Reservation" attitude for design
>>> decisions in the follow up.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > No worry, It is just the contemporary appearance!
>>> >
>>> > Armin
>>> >
>>> > Am 04.09.2012 um 17:45 schrieb Elizabeth Leddy:
>>> >
>>> >> On Sep 4, 2012, at 8:05 AM, André Nogueira wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> Hi,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> We talk a lot about plone.com with one of our partners during Plone
>>> >>> Symposium South America, and this company offered to do the Design
>>> for
>>> >>> new plone.com.  The company is TV1.com, they have designed all major
>>> >>> governments Plone websites here in Brazil, like:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> http://www.planalto.gov.br
>>> >>> http://www.brasil.gov.br
>>> >>> http://www.brasil.gov.br/enfrentandoocrack
>>> >>>
>>> >>> They are very interested in contribute with Plone, and this a great
>>> >>> way to contribute.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> If no one is against the idea, I can start the process with them
>>> immediately.
>>> >>> All we need to do is organize all information we have and all we need
>>> >>> in our nem website.
>>> >>
>>> >> I don't see any reason why this shouldn't be done. Can any one come
>>> up with objections? Not only does it save us time but it gives them a
>>> chance to give back.
>>> >>
>>> >> As far as marketing material, Rose, Armin, Derrick - do you feel
>>> comfortable writing this stuff or is this something that we should
>>> seriously consider farming out? My unfortunate educated guess is that
>>> nothing really exists yet but please correct me if I'm wrong.
>>> >>
>>> >> Liz
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> []s
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Andre Nogueira
>>> >>> andre at simplesconsultoria.com.br
>>> >>> Simples Consultoria
>>> >>> www.simplesconsultoria.com.br
>>> >>> Tel. (11) 3898-2121
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Alex Clark <aclark at aclark.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>> Hi,
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> As far as I can tell, this has not been discussed so:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Who wants to donate a new-modern-theme to the plone.com project?
>>> To get
>>> >>>> started, we're going to use the existing plone.org theme
>>> >>>> (http://pypi.python.org/pypi/plonetheme.ploneorg) but we hope to
>>> replace
>>> >>>> that with something better/newer later. If you have any ideas,
>>> please let us
>>> >>>> know. Ideally the theme requirements would be something like:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Based on Twitter bootstrap (but does not appear to be based on
>>> bootstrap,
>>> >>>> please)
>>> >>>> Responsive (included with bootstrap)
>>> >>>> Diazo-powered
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> But any and all theme donations will be considered and appreciated.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Alex
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> --
>>> >>>> Alex Clark · http://pythonpackages.com
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
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>>
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