[Plone-com] We need a new modern theme for plone.com.

Tue Sep 4 19:02:37 UTC 2012

I really disagre with using plone.org for irc that is not what it is for
and it should not be logged either really and plone.com should.

Wyn
On Sep 4, 2012 9:56 PM, "Alex Clark" <aclark at aclark.net> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Elizabeth Leddy <
> elizabeth.leddy at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> We have two points without leadership currently: design and content. I
>> think Andres/TV1 can handle design. I really think that Armin (perhaps with
>> the help of Plone Munich?) would be a great lead on content. Armin- would
>> you be willing to lead everyone and get this content stuff together? Anyone
>> have objections to that? If the two of you can coordinate at a high level
>> then spread info down to everyone else helping it would be amazing.
>>
>> Two cents on getting started:
>> Step one is to set up a collaborative space for working on docs. Set some
>> targets for when to get things done and set up some calls than anyone can
>> join in and help. Without deadlines (fake or otherwise) this project is
>> going to turn into a squabble fest. Also, there is money set aside for this
>> project. Find out what's available and think about how to use it.
>>
>
> IIUC, Rose has picked up the ball here.
>
>
>
>>
>> Most importantly, I shit you not, this will not work unless this project
>> goes ahead with a commitment to transparency. Communicate often and openly.
>> Please :) (You only get a please with a smiley face once).
>>
>
>
> +1
>
>
>
>>
>> For starters - live convo is now in #plone.com.
>>
>
>
> Can you make that #plone.org please? We've already begun a discussion in
> there, and it's beneficial to have some overlap with the AI team (since it
> will very likely get dumped on them to maintain, regardless of how it
> developed and deployed.)
>
>
> Alex
>
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>>
>> Liz
>>
>> On Sep 4, 2012, at 9:03 AM, Armin Stroß-Radschinski wrote:
>>
>> > The only request that I have related to Plone.com, is that it works for
>> the job (and that is not an objective). If they step up and can create a
>> fast solution, we should get a grip on that. Is there the targetgroup
>> definition in place? Do we have a moodchart where to go for emotionally?
>> This should be a suggestion for a professional starting point for them, but
>> not be part of a discussion.
>> >
>> > With Plone and Diazo final finetuning is a snap. The quality should be
>> state of the art and meet some expectations. If they (You!) could quickly
>> write up some points they can meet with success, it would help a lot to
>> gain speed.
>> >
>> > Good design can let you feel the quality of the product. This is not a
>> matter of eye candy. We should aim at that and it should be a little
>> "Plonish". I still wear my Plone Conf shirts from 2004 by clearnoodle
>> design at night. And I sleep well ;-)
>> >
>> > This is the only points I have in mind. The rest is CONTENT and content
>> rules!
>> >
>> > Very important (from disasters in the past with other projects, aka
>> ZOPE): Make sure all rights of the design are fully transferred to the
>> Plone Foundation and there is no "Reservation" attitude for design
>> decisions in the follow up.
>> >
>> >
>> > No worry, It is just the contemporary appearance!
>> >
>> > Armin
>> >
>> > Am 04.09.2012 um 17:45 schrieb Elizabeth Leddy:
>> >
>> >> On Sep 4, 2012, at 8:05 AM, André Nogueira wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>>
>> >>> We talk a lot about plone.com with one of our partners during Plone
>> >>> Symposium South America, and this company offered to do the Design for
>> >>> new plone.com.  The company is TV1.com, they have designed all major
>> >>> governments Plone websites here in Brazil, like:
>> >>>
>> >>> http://www.planalto.gov.br
>> >>> http://www.brasil.gov.br
>> >>> http://www.brasil.gov.br/enfrentandoocrack
>> >>>
>> >>> They are very interested in contribute with Plone, and this a great
>> >>> way to contribute.
>> >>>
>> >>> If no one is against the idea, I can start the process with them
>> immediately.
>> >>> All we need to do is organize all information we have and all we need
>> >>> in our nem website.
>> >>
>> >> I don't see any reason why this shouldn't be done. Can any one come up
>> with objections? Not only does it save us time but it gives them a chance
>> to give back.
>> >>
>> >> As far as marketing material, Rose, Armin, Derrick - do you feel
>> comfortable writing this stuff or is this something that we should
>> seriously consider farming out? My unfortunate educated guess is that
>> nothing really exists yet but please correct me if I'm wrong.
>> >>
>> >> Liz
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> []s
>> >>>
>> >>> Andre Nogueira
>> >>> andre at simplesconsultoria.com.br
>> >>> Simples Consultoria
>> >>> www.simplesconsultoria.com.br
>> >>> Tel. (11) 3898-2121
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Alex Clark <aclark at aclark.net>
>> wrote:
>> >>>> Hi,
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> As far as I can tell, this has not been discussed so:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Who wants to donate a new-modern-theme to the plone.com project? To
>> get
>> >>>> started, we're going to use the existing plone.org theme
>> >>>> (http://pypi.python.org/pypi/plonetheme.ploneorg) but we hope to
>> replace
>> >>>> that with something better/newer later. If you have any ideas,
>> please let us
>> >>>> know. Ideally the theme requirements would be something like:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Based on Twitter bootstrap (but does not appear to be based on
>> bootstrap,
>> >>>> please)
>> >>>> Responsive (included with bootstrap)
>> >>>> Diazo-powered
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> But any and all theme donations will be considered and appreciated.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Alex
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> Alex Clark · http://pythonpackages.com
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
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