[Plone-com] We need a new modern theme for plone.com.

Alex Clark aclark at aclark.net
Tue Sep 4 19:01:08 UTC 2012


Hi,

On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Elizabeth Leddy
<elizabeth.leddy at gmail.com>wrote:

> I sent the other email before I read this - by all means - take the lead.
> I just wanted to pick leaders and I'll step out. I think Armin would be a
> good co-captain. In fact its even better to have two at the helm, one from
> Europe and one from Americas.
>
> Please don't take my intervention as anything more than trying to sort
> things out and get things moving. I apologize if anyone took things any
> other way.
>
>
I take it as "confusing the hell out of me". That said, I think I've caught
up. :-)


Alex






> Liz
>
>
> On Sep 4, 2012, at 9:24 AM, Alex Clark wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Elizabeth Leddy <
> elizabeth.leddy at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sep 4, 2012, at 8:05 AM, André Nogueira wrote:
>>
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > We talk a lot about plone.com with one of our partners during Plone
>> > Symposium South America, and this company offered to do the Design for
>> > new plone.com.  The company is TV1.com, they have designed all major
>> > governments Plone websites here in Brazil, like:
>> >
>> > http://www.planalto.gov.br
>> > http://www.brasil.gov.br
>> > http://www.brasil.gov.br/enfrentandoocrack
>> >
>> > They are very interested in contribute with Plone, and this a great
>> > way to contribute.
>> >
>> > If no one is against the idea, I can start the process with them
>> immediately.
>> > All we need to do is organize all information we have and all we need
>> > in our nem website.
>>
>> I don't see any reason why this shouldn't be done. Can any one come up
>> with objections? Not only does it save us time but it gives them a chance
>> to give back.
>>
>> As far as marketing material, Rose, Armin, Derrick - do you feel
>> comfortable writing this stuff or is this something that we should
>> seriously consider farming out? My unfortunate educated guess is that
>> nothing really exists yet but please correct me if I'm wrong.
>>
>
>
> Plone.com stakeholders: do you want clear and consistent cat herding? If
> so, I'm available to help. What I'm not interested in is putting together a
> group of folks to accomplish some tasks and then having the project taken
> in a totally different direction by other helpers. Let me be clear: I want
> to help. I don't want to participate in a power struggle.
>
> I have a proven track record for clear and concise communication,
> leadership, and results. While I know Liz and Wyn are very well meaning,
> and I very much LOVE them personally (and they both have similar track
> records as I) :-), I find their contributions here a bit off-putting. Sorry
> to be blunt, but my patience with this is at an end, too. I generally don't
> contribute to avoid exactly this type of conflict. But I thought the
> project was "dead", as indicated by Matt and I don't want to see it fail.
>
> Bottom line: who is going to cat herd this? I have volunteered and can
> deliver results. Why are "other cat herders" now joining and changing the
> focus? To me, this seems both disrespectful and harmful to any forward
> motion. Everyone, please try to be respectful of everyone else's
> contributions. We all have opinions. Results are the only thing that
> matters here.
>
> Liz, Wyn, are you now leading the group? If so, please do me the courtesy
> of stating your intentions plainly as I have done. And save me the time of
> stepping up to lead, only to have to fight for that leadership.
>
>
>
> Respectfully,
>
>
>
> Alex
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>> Liz
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > []s
>> >
>> > Andre Nogueira
>> > andre at simplesconsultoria.com.br
>> > Simples Consultoria
>> > www.simplesconsultoria.com.br
>> > Tel. (11) 3898-2121
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Alex Clark <aclark at aclark.net> wrote:
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> As far as I can tell, this has not been discussed so:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Who wants to donate a new-modern-theme to the plone.com project? To
>> get
>> >> started, we're going to use the existing plone.org theme
>> >> (http://pypi.python.org/pypi/plonetheme.ploneorg) but we hope to
>> replace
>> >> that with something better/newer later. If you have any ideas, please
>> let us
>> >> know. Ideally the theme requirements would be something like:
>> >>
>> >> Based on Twitter bootstrap (but does not appear to be based on
>> bootstrap,
>> >> please)
>> >> Responsive (included with bootstrap)
>> >> Diazo-powered
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> But any and all theme donations will be considered and appreciated.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Alex
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Alex Clark · http://pythonpackages.com
>> >>
>> >>
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