[Plone-com] We need a new modern theme for plone.com.

Tue Sep 4 16:36:01 UTC 2012

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Hello Alex
Not sure where that came from bro :) I did not really want to jump in
I was just helping out, it is about a leadership consensus and I am
not volunteering for that - I do have an opinion though.

Really it is emails like that at this stage that just make me
facepalm, there is no need for a CV - this is not a competition or a
job interview, just good Plone peeps getting shit done.

Wyn

On 09/04/2012 07:24 PM, Alex Clark wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Elizabeth Leddy 
> <elizabeth.leddy at gmail.com>wrote:
> 
>> On Sep 4, 2012, at 8:05 AM, André Nogueira wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> We talk a lot about plone.com with one of our partners during
>>> Plone Symposium South America, and this company offered to do
>>> the Design for new plone.com.  The company is TV1.com, they
>>> have designed all major governments Plone websites here in
>>> Brazil, like:
>>> 
>>> http://www.planalto.gov.br http://www.brasil.gov.br 
>>> http://www.brasil.gov.br/enfrentandoocrack
>>> 
>>> They are very interested in contribute with Plone, and this a
>>> great way to contribute.
>>> 
>>> If no one is against the idea, I can start the process with
>>> them
>> immediately.
>>> All we need to do is organize all information we have and all
>>> we need in our nem website.
>> 
>> I don't see any reason why this shouldn't be done. Can any one
>> come up with objections? Not only does it save us time but it
>> gives them a chance to give back.
>> 
>> As far as marketing material, Rose, Armin, Derrick - do you feel 
>> comfortable writing this stuff or is this something that we
>> should seriously consider farming out? My unfortunate educated
>> guess is that nothing really exists yet but please correct me if
>> I'm wrong.
>> 
> 
> 
> Plone.com stakeholders: do you want clear and consistent cat
> herding? If so, I'm available to help. What I'm not interested in
> is putting together a group of folks to accomplish some tasks and
> then having the project taken in a totally different direction by
> other helpers. Let me be clear: I want to help. I don't want to
> participate in a power struggle.
> 
> I have a proven track record for clear and concise communication, 
> leadership, and results. While I know Liz and Wyn are very well
> meaning, and I very much LOVE them personally (and they both have
> similar track records as I) :-), I find their contributions here a
> bit off-putting. Sorry to be blunt, but my patience with this is at
> an end, too. I generally don't contribute to avoid exactly this
> type of conflict. But I thought the project was "dead", as
> indicated by Matt and I don't want to see it fail.
> 
> Bottom line: who is going to cat herd this? I have volunteered and
> can deliver results. Why are "other cat herders" now joining and
> changing the focus? To me, this seems both disrespectful and
> harmful to any forward motion. Everyone, please try to be
> respectful of everyone else's contributions. We all have opinions.
> Results are the only thing that matters here.
> 
> Liz, Wyn, are you now leading the group? If so, please do me the
> courtesy of stating your intentions plainly as I have done. And
> save me the time of stepping up to lead, only to have to fight for
> that leadership.
> 
> 
> 
> Respectfully,
> 
> 
> 
> Alex
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> Liz
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> []s
>>> 
>>> Andre Nogueira andre at simplesconsultoria.com.br Simples
>>> Consultoria www.simplesconsultoria.com.br Tel. (11) 3898-2121
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Alex Clark <aclark at aclark.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> As far as I can tell, this has not been discussed so:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Who wants to donate a new-modern-theme to the plone.com
>>>> project? To get started, we're going to use the existing
>>>> plone.org theme 
>>>> (http://pypi.python.org/pypi/plonetheme.ploneorg) but we hope
>>>> to
>> replace
>>>> that with something better/newer later. If you have any
>>>> ideas, please
>> let us
>>>> know. Ideally the theme requirements would be something
>>>> like:
>>>> 
>>>> Based on Twitter bootstrap (but does not appear to be based
>>>> on
>> bootstrap,
>>>> please) Responsive (included with bootstrap) Diazo-powered
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> But any and all theme donations will be considered and
>>>> appreciated.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Alex
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -- Alex Clark · http://pythonpackages.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
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