<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Matt Hamilton <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:matth@netsight.co.uk">matth@netsight.co.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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On 20 Apr 2011, at 08:24, Jan Ulrich Hasecke wrote:<br></div>
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Historically Plone has had poor reception at Europython. I think this is mainly because it is not the 'cool new thing'. I mean, it is a bit boring really... we have been around a while, we have solved all the hard problems, we have a great community and we did NoSQL 10 years ago. The Plone community just get on and do things. An interesting example is that two years ago there were *loads* of talks about Django on the agenda. The following year, just one. <br>
</blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>that's explaining my whole point when i say: "<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; ">plone is no more perceived as a cutting edge technology" :)</span></div>
<meta charset="utf-8"><div><br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">*If* I go to Europython this year, and hoping to do the Lightning talk that I didn't get to do last year, which was 'From python to Plone in 3 minutes' in which I will do a live demo of going from a plain python 2.6 install to Plone 4 up and running in 3 minutes.</blockquote>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>we should push this in a "nice" video format (a screencast or something..) on the "python community channels" someway ;) </div><div>also, we could push this on <a href="http://plone.org">plone.org</a> (or I'm missing it if it's already there..)</div>
<div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">I still think a lot of people are wary of Zope/Plone as it still has a bad reputation from before when it was a big monolithic thing you had to swallow whole.</blockquote>
<div><br></div><div>+1</div><meta charset="utf-8"><div>I think that senior python programmers are negative biased about plone (and zope) as they were ages ago, and they tend to pull on their side python new-comers. That's why i'm sad, and why i think that a Plone booth at such event could help letting new people in (not rare that, after I talk a bit about plone as it is now to non-plone python developers, they say "oh really? :)" )</div>
<div><br></div><div>a plone booth could push a message like: "Professional web content management with Python? Let's Plone!"</div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
I'm hoping that Pyramid goes some way to helping alleviate these fears as it is taking a lot of the technology we know and trust and putting it in front of a new audience.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>+1 </div>
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