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    There it is :-)<br>
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    Laurent.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Laurent Lasudry wrote:<br>
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      I do !<br>
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      Laurent.<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Martin Aspeli wrote:<br>
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        <div dir="ltr">I have it... the problem is it's in some old
          version of Pages that I can no longer open. ;) Anyone have
          Pages '09?</div>
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          <div class="gmail_quote">On 27 October 2014 16:21, Asko Soukka
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              .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi all,<span
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                Martin Aspeli wrote:<br>
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                  .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Of
                  course we tried this in 2007 when Alex and others
                  invented Deco (the<br>
                  original, bold, clean and beautiful concept) and that
                  may well have done<br>
                  it. I still think that it's better than anything else
                  out there even<br>
                  now, although the gap is narrowing.<br>
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              </span> I hope that somone could bring the original
              "Deco+UI proposal.pdf" online again.<br>
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              As you may know, Mosaic Sprint Barcelona worked hard to
              fix the "boring legacy stuff" to give the Deco vision a
              yet another change as Plone Mosaic. So, with
              plone.app.mosaic (and its versions of plone.app.blocks and
              friends), it's possible to use these new style layouts
              side by side legacy templates, already with Plone 4.3+.<br>
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              And how is Mosaic relevant to this discussion? The
              Deco/Mosaic vision describes the UI layer using such terms
              and technologies that it's no longer tied to the current
              Plone technologies. Deco/Mosaic page composition (be it
              plone.app.blocks, Varnish ESI, or something else) does not
              really need to care where do those layouts and tiles come
              from.<br>
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              So, as long as used tiles are not interdependent, their
              backend could be replaced one by one with any fancy new
              technology (of course, it would help, if we could make
              Plone ZODB accessible from Python 3 code).<br>
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              Cheers,<br>
              Asko
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